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Do you believe in sexuality?

Let me explain why I don't believe in sexuality...You know, the whole gay, straight, bisexuals, etc. You see, I was leitura a fanfiction (I know, geeky right?), and the topic of sexuality came up. When I read it, I was shocked and intrigued. I've never thought of it before, but now that I think about it, I honestly don't believe in sexuality. Here is an excerpt:
"I think the whole sexuality thing is just an easy way to state…preferences. Some people prefer blondes, some people prefer penises, but to say that just because a guy is attracted to blondes he can't ever fall in amor with a brunette is…absurd. Same thing with penises, just because a man is attracted to women doesn't mean it's impossible for him to fall in amor with a man. I think that people fall in amor with people, not their genitalia. Think about it, it makes sense."
Now think about it...does it make sense to you? Please answer and no anger! I'm not trying to offend anyone!
 Ms_Mea posted over a year ago
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Mermaid-Tail said:
Though I think the different types of sexuality are sometimes fuzzier and harder to define than society treats them, I do believe different sexualities exist, and that not everyone is capable of sexual attraction to any gender.

Me for example. I'm straight, and am completely confident I will never feel sexual attraction towards another woman. I might connect with one, deeply amor them, but it will only ever be platonic for me. I am not capable of seeing other women sexually. No matter how wonderful a woman's personality was, I do not find the female form, in any shape size or variety, sexually attractive, and the idea of sleeping with another woman definitely does not appeal to me.

In my opinion, the difference between a preference for blondes and your sexuality is that the hair thing is a preference, like 'I prefer coca-cola but still like juice'. Being straight isn't a preference, like 'I prefer heterosexual sex, but still like homosexual sex', it's mais than simply preferring one over the other, it's only liking one and not getting anything out of the other (in the case of people who identify as fully straight or gay. There are of course many bisexual/pansexual people too, who are capable of attraction to either gender).

I think society is often too interested in labels and pushing people into neat little boxes that don't always fit, and that a person should just be with whoever they wish regardless of what that would label them. I'm sure there are probably many people out there who are bi/pansexual but don't acknowledge or consciously know it too, but I do believe different sexualities exist.
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posted over a year ago 
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exactaley what i mean in the last paragraph you wrote!
larouxbestfan posted over a year ago
Cinders said:
I understand what you mean por using the term "sexuality," but I would also like to define sexuality as a term because it most definitely exists.

Dictionary.Com defines it as: "sexual character; possession of the structural and functional traits of sex." (underlines added)

Sexuality is mais than simple sexual orientation, which is what you are really addressing in your question. It includes sexual awareness, interests, activity, philosophies, and, yes, orientation. But it's only a part of it.

Now to your real question: Is there such a thing as sexual orientation? Most definitely yes. I very strongly believe in link. But this happens because sexuality (more than orientation) is very complicated. Not because sexual orientation does not exist. It goes beyond simple preference. You will meet plenty of gays, for example, who tried their hardest to be straight and it tore them up inside because it just didn't fit. Is it possible for them to ever meet the one person of the opposite sex that they do find attractive? Well, yes - but not likely.

lgbt use the hair-color metaphor to explain sexuality often, I've even used it, but it's mais than that. Hair color is superficial, and all-in-all not that influential in who we fall for. One could make the argument about the superficiality of gender-identity, but that's a digression I don't want to go into.

I think the word "sexual preference" is misleading, because it implies that even if a person PREFERS one gender over another, s/he might still fall for the other gender. This is possible, with people identifying as bi or pansexual, or with people who fall anywhere between 1 and 5 on the sino curve of the link. But for the *mumbles* percent or so of the population that is exclusively hetero or homosexual, 99.99% of the time, they will only be attracted to one gender.

We do not, cannot, choose our sexual orientation, or who we fall in amor with. I believe this statement mais than anything else. I do not believe that people "turn gay" or "go gay for someone" over night. I believe that people who fall towards the lower end of the Kinsey scale may discover an attraction to a person of the same sex as them and vice versa.

Sexual orientation, however, is a societal construct. You don't see bonobos labeling their sexual activity as hetero or homosexual. They just do what they do. So in that sense, it is a human concept, yes, but it exists to explain human behavior. We label ourselves based on who we realized we are attracted to the most often.*

But just because you don't know what your sexual orientation is, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I did a very poor job of explaining myself here. I blame graduate school. Takes a lot out of me.
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*Several people struggle with this label, which is why you hear stories of people not coming out until they are forty or older. This is not because they changed their sexual orientation overnight. This is because it has been a challenging assessment of their own sexuality, and they have grappled with their attractions for their whole lives.
Cinders posted over a year ago
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agreed!
larouxbestfan posted over a year ago
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thank you for your politeness! I was afraid people would go out and be all like, "YOU'RE WRONG! IT EXISTS!" I'm thankful for your reasons and your politeness.
Ms_Mea posted over a year ago
alismouha said:
People fall in amor with people,people fall in Lust with genitals.
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posted over a year ago 
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Yeah, agree with this.
sapherequeen posted over a year ago
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I agree with this too :)
Ms_Mea posted over a year ago
renrae said:
There's a word for that. It's called pansexuality.
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larouxbestfan said:
i do but at the same time all you're doing is catergorizing somone in a catergory based on what people think someones sexuality so honestly "sexuality" is really something i kinda dont really beleive but at the same time too because you can like who ever you are but i dont think you should have to be catergorized...confusing right?
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posted over a year ago 
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but i think that you also HAVE to beleive it
larouxbestfan posted over a year ago
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why do i HAVE to belive it?
Ms_Mea posted over a year ago
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because people kinda make you! They'll be like you're this you're that...and you just hear people talking about sexuality and stuff so much people just MAKE you beleive it!
larouxbestfan posted over a year ago
Lawli-gagger said:
I find this stupid myself...
I'm straight because I like men...what's the discussion?
And I know I'll never go for a woman because...hey, I know me better than anyone else.
i know what I'm attracted to so...
Just not really understanding where you're going with this...
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MustardMouse said:
You know what, i've really been thinking about this same topic for a while, and i always come to the same conclusion. Neither sexuality or feminity/masculinity exist, and are only social constructions.
But really, i think what is truly missing on the approach of these subjects is objectivity. There are little to none studies done taking the point of view of the human being a meere animal.
What i believe is that attraction depends at some rate on our biological way of reacting to the different kinds of pheromones other humans expell, this ignoring the fact people find other people attractive por just looking at pictures, where the most important fact would be what we leant to like based on our cultural context.
I might have not explained my point of view fully, but i hope that at least it gets through. (im new in this site btw, so idk if you can answer respostas but it ould be cool if you could answer this and tell me if it doesnt make sense or something.)
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