King and the Rogues in Alpha And Omega 4

LillyOmega2 I just thought of something. A part of me would like to see Princess fight with King and him die. It is PG, so they can get away with it. There's a few violent PG movies out there, like Watership Down, Legend of the Guardians...okay that's all I can remember now. If it's like the battle between Soren and Metal Beak (Legend of the Guardians), then they'd get away with it being PG. Edit: "It's kinda hard to say if the wolves we know as King and Princess will be playing as Princess and King..." You lost me with that statement.

BlondLionEzel @LillyOmega2 While I doubt that Princess will kill King, I hope she at least injures him.

LillyOmega2 Sorry, I just keep thinking in the reality of my version of The Great Wolf Games in which Princess hates King's guts. She's actually one of the wolves who takes part in killing him and Queen in it. But putting my mindset aside, I'd like to see King get killed by Princess in one of the movies. It would make me like her even more.

BlondLionEzel @LillyOmega2 I think that killing would be too much.

LoneOmega What I meant was : they used the same 3D models to make a lot of wolves... Like, king appeared in A&O 3 for a brief moment, but I don't think that it was king, it was just meant to be another common wolf...they're working with a low budget, they'll do anything to save money. I can't explain what I mean that well, I hope you understand now...

LillyOmega2 Not really. I think there needs to be at least one death in the series. And I think King would be the perfect choice. Like my friend on Skype just said: "Yeah I wish she would rip his throat out honestly." Edit: @LoneOmega: That makes sense now, but I hope it is them. All of those wolves were in A&O2 and A&O3 (and in A&O in the case of that she-wolf in this pic), so it could be them. We'll never never about in 2 and 3, but we might with this one. A lot of wolves who look like rogues are in this movie, so why wouldn't it be them in this one?

BlondLionEzel @LillyOmega2 Then people would complain that Princess is a murderer. Just look at what happened with Bayformers Optimus or "Murder Prime".

LillyOmega2 Well, King would deserve it. (And she wouldn't be a murderer if she did it to protect someone, which would probably be the only reason a wolf like Princess kills. She doesn't seem like a killer unless there's no other choice.) Sometimes certain characters need to die at some point. The reason I think he deserves it is he threatened to murder Runt. And I've only seen the first Transformers, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't like it so much that I refuse to look at the movies' DVDs at Family Video or to watch the sequels.

BlondLionEzel @LillyOmega2 I can see that happening, but remember these are for kids and parents get upset if Optimus Prime rips off The Fallen's face and and rips out his spark.

LillyOmega2 I haven't seen Transformers' sequels but I know they're PG-13 so they can get away with that. And A&O could get away with a wolf killing another. Have you ever seen Watership Down? If that can get away with a PG rating, a lot of PG movies can do the same. And from what I've heard (no idea since, again, I've never seen the sequels) "The Fallen" is something trying to end the word. How is it murder if you kill something that would've destroyed the whole world. (I know, that's probably wrong, but I'm just speculating based on what I heard.)

BlondLionEzel @LillyOmega2 I did see Watership Down...I still have nightmares. But if she does kill King, then she should knock him off a cliff or push him into a river.

LillyOmega2 I don't know about that. They're wolves, so I doubt she'd be so nice about it. Especially (I know, I'm repeating myself) after how he threatened to kill Runt. I'd like there to finally be some blood shed in A&O. But putting my fondness of dark movies aside, I don't think any wolf would just shove another off a cliff or into a river. Not only would a wolf not do that, it would be too predictable. Not at the level of Watership Down since (I think) rules regarding MPAA ratings have changed since 1978, but at least something King would deserve. (And something that he couldn't survive.) Those sorts of deaths have happened in movies like The Land Before Time (Sharptooth fell off a cliff and survived), so King could survive. If he's directly killed by Princess (throat torn out, for example), then I thought less people would be wondering what happened to him. I just hate when movies leave you wondering about whether someone died or not only to never answer that question in sequels. (Like Kludd in Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole or the two dogs from The Plague Dogs.)

BlondLionEzel @LillyOmega2 Kids are a lot more sensitive these days. I showed G1 Transformers to my five year old cousin and he said the Autobots were too violent. Also, if King survived, the plot for 5 would be set up.

LillyOmega2 That surprises me since my brother has gone to see R rated movies since he was 10 years old. He's 13-14 now. And good point. Maybe he possibly dies in A&O4 then he comes back in a later movie and dies whenever they decide to stop making A&O movies. I doubt Family Vacation will be the last one. (Basically, he'll be like Nyra from Guardians of Ga'Hoole; she didn't die until the last book, and that'll probably the same when they are done making Legend of the Guardians movies.)

BlondLionEzel @LillyOmega2 They're making a second Legend of the Guardians movie?

LillyOmega2 @No, Nyra was just an example. But Ryan Kwanten and Jim Sturgess both said they would voice Soren and Kludd again if it ever does happen. And Zack Snyder once said he was interested in doing another eventually.

BlondLionEzel @LillyOmega2 Okay. Either way, I wouldn't mind if Princess killed King.

Kitsune32 If they push the ratings up to PG then they could do an implied death or something like with Clayton or Scar.

BlondLionEzel @Kitsune32 Yes.

Kitsune32 Thanks. or they can have King sacrifice himself for Princess

LillyOmega2 @Kitsune32: Clayton? I take it you mean Claws? (And the only non-A&O Scar I know is from The Lion King. I was thinking about that.)

BlondLionEzel @LillyOmega2 Clayton is from Disney's Tarzan.

LillyOmega2 I've never seen that. (Actually, I've never seen any Disney movie with human main characters besides Fox and the Hound, Lady and the Tramp, & Oliver and Company.)

BlondLionEzel @LillyOmega2 Do see it. It's a really good Disney film :) Clayton is a poacher and the villain of the movie.

Kitsune32 It can actually be dark when you think about it.