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Between Derek’s big change, Parrish’s new mission and Kate’s dramatic exit, there’s 
‘s Ryan Kelley on Parrish’s Mystery, Future With Lydia in Season 5
Below, executive producer Russell Mulcahy — who also directed the super-sized installment — talks about the episode’s biggest twists, and how they might affect the drama’s fifth season.
TVLINE | Let’s start with the ending. Argent leaving with the Calaveras felt oddly final. Could this be the end of the Argents’ saga?
I wouldn’t say that. Right from the beginning, our mantra was “sexy, scary and surprising,” and I think all doors remain open [for anyone to return]. All things are possible in 
TVLINE | One of those “surprises” was Derek’s evolution. Since that’s a new concept for the show, can you kind of explain what happened?
I think it’s what you want it to be. In the mythology, there are various interpretations, but he’s evolved to a different level. It’s a rite of passage, a natural evolvement in the mystery of the werewolf syndrome. It all comes from the mind of [creator] Jeff Davis; he’s brilliant, and he keeps me on my toes. There were bets going around about who the Benefactor was, and most of us got it wrong.
TVLINE | I’m also glad you didn’t kill off Braeden. Will her hunt for the Desert Wolf remain her top priority moving forward?
It could be. Next season is going to be a real eye-opener. We haven’t done too much planning, but from the hints I’ve heard of what’s to come, it’s going to be a really cool, interesting season.
TVLINE | The other mystery is what Parrish is. Do 
] I don’t. I think they’re still going through the bestiary, trying to figure it out. He obviously seems to be impervious to fire, and he has a good amount of strength. I don’t think 
TVLINE | And he’ll have Lydia helping him. Do you see their relationship ever turning romantic, as a lot of the fans are hoping?
The chemistry seems to be really nice there. Whether that turns into a romantic thing, or just becomes a close friendship, I don’t know. But there’s definitely a bond that you saw in one of the final scenes of them together. It’s a very strong bond forming between them.
TVLINE | Lydia also spent much of the finale with Mason, and after what he saw, there’s no way he can pretend like he doesn’t know about the supernatural world. Will he be more in-the-know moving forward?
Oh, absolutely. It’s a bit like Stiles’ dad. Throughout the seasons, he went from being a regular sheriff in Beacon Hills to finally knowing about werewolves, lizard men, witches and whatever else. So his eyes have definitely been opened.
TVLINE | Stiles had a funny moment at the end of the finale, where he got handcuffed to the desk; it made me miss the old, funnier Stiles. Might he return to his lighter side?
I don’t think it ever really disappeared, but I know he went to a 
dark place in Season 3B. When he was possessed, we really saw his dark side. But that lighter side — and, specifically, the lighter side of Stiles and his dad — will continue.
TVLINE | Scott and Kira’s relationship is also a fan-favorite. Will you continue throwing new obstacles at them in Season 5, or might they actually get some alone time?
They care for each other and love each other very much, but you know, it’s still the early days [of their relationship], so there will always be new conflicts.
fans, your thoughts on the finale? Hopes for Season 5? Drop ‘em all in the comments section below.
Lol since when have scott and kira been a fan favourite? Pretty sure everyone still wants allison back!
Speak for yourself! I love Kira and I love her with Scott.
I liked Allison but something I realized five minutes after the end of the episode where she died… I was perfectly fine with her leaving. Malia and Kira are a breath of fresh air to the show and I enjoy the new group dynamics, and again, while I did enjoy Allison I am also super beyond happy we are relieved of any angsty chats between her and Scott. They were getting tedious.
And Scott and Kira are so adorable they’re certainly a favorite of *mine*, I don’t know or care what the rest of the fandom thinks about them.
except they don’t. the fanbase is actually pretty 50/50 on allison, so there are a lot of people who love kira, and scott and kira, and don’t want allison back.
I like Kira alot but the chemistry between her and Scott is not the same I’m not saying Bring Allison back
I thought the exact same thing. I don’t need Allison back but Kira is useless and the chemistry is non existent.
I don’t feel quite as strongly about Kira, but I agree that the chemistry isn’t there between them the way it was between Scott and Allison. I’m fine with her at the moment simply because I have no interest in watching breakup drama, but I’d prefer Scott gets another love interest at some point that has the same level of chemistry and Stiles and Malia do. For me, they’re the couple to watch on the show, with Derek and Braeden a surprising second.
Allison was a bit dreary and very one dimensional. Kira provides the same level of innocence that Scott has/had. I honestly believe people have a problem with Kira’s ethnicity. Maybe I’m reading too much into the heavy hatred against Kira because I don’t believe Scott and Allison were anything last season. Yet, when Allison moved on with the other guy, there wasn’t such a avalanche of hatred for him. But with Kira, it was like all the vitriol that was being directed at her sounded like a bunch of jealous ex-girlfriends or boyfriends. Arden Cho is a wonderful actress. Maybe not Oscar award winning caliber yet but neither was the chick who played Allison.
I didn’t like Allison and the other guy together either it’s not about kira’so ethnicity at all she is beautiful I guess maybe her acting is not as good as crystal’s
I prefer Kira to Allison by a lot. After season 2 I really strongly disliked Allison. I think they just need to find a better way to use Kira on this show.
Estoy de acuerdo contigo, Kira como el amor de Scott no me llama la atención, ella es muy aburrida, ella sería genial si se ganase su lugar en la serie por ella misma, no por ser la pareja de la protagonista, “evolucionando” dejando la apariencia débil que tiene. Por otro lado no se si sea el único que lo nota pero hay un extraño vinculo entre Liam y Scott, mas alla del mordisco. Un Scoam no estaría nada mal XD, ya han trabajado el homosexualismo en la seria, por qué no integrar el bisexualismo, Scott y Liam harían una linda interesante.
Kira as Scott’s love, I don’t like, she is boring, will be great if she win her place in the show for herself, don’t for be the couple of alpha, “evolving” leaving her week appearance. For another hand, I don’t know if I’m the only one that realize it, but I see a stranger feeling between Liam and Scott, and isn’t only the bite. Scoam wouldn’t be very bad XD. They had worked homosexualism in the show, why no add bisexualism, Scott y Liam would make an interesting couple.
I like Kira and Scott but I really like the idea of Scott and Liam getting together even more. Great observation, Andrea!
“Homosexuality,” and, “bisexuality,” you mean. “Homosexualism,” and, “bisexualism,” aren’t words.
People who blame Kira for Allison leaving should probably redirect that anger at Crystal Reed. I liked Allison and Scott together but I’m loving Kira with Scott now. They have great chemistry and I love that their relationship is totally different from him and Allison. She was his first love but people generally move on from their first loves and I respect the show for managing to shift focus from their central pairing and create an equally dynamic one. I’d also point out that Allison wasn’t particularly well liked following the events of season two so I’d say your “everyone” comment is off base.
The chemistry isn’t equal I don’t hate Kira because Allison is gone things change but she’s not as good as Allison but I still love the show and the events there in
I agree. Allison wasn’t killed off because of Kira. She was killed off because Crystal Reed wanted Allison to be killed off, because she wanted to leave, “Teen Wolf,” and move on. I really wish people would take a break from their anti-Kira rants and … oh, I don’t know … do some research and find out the truth for a change.
Um you’re on an island alone. Most fans ship Scira. They are more scira shippers than Allison and this doesn’t include over 10 facebook pages instagram accounts and tumblr accounts. And everyone does not want her back I can’t stand the bitch. I want her to stay dead. So speak for yourself because Scott and Kira relationship is a fan favorite
Please speak for yourself, and not for everyone else. I, for one, love Skira.
Also, not everyone is a fan of Allison, or her relationship with Scott. And not everyone wants Allison to come back.
This season didn’t really work for me. It felt, per TW usual, disjointed and slow. Very, very slow. I feel like they could’ve told the same story in half the episodes. I wish they’d make Parrish a phoenix. It’d fit with the whole impervious to fire and being able to come back from the dead (if he really did die in that car explosion). Surprisingly, the Stiles/Malia pairing grew on me. I especially love the family moments the two have with Stiles’ dad; it’s sweet. Scott/Kira is quite bland; wonder how their relationship is going to evolve seeing as he stabbed her but knowing TW it’ll probably go under the rug. Also, I’m not sure why she needed to break glass in order to feel pain and heal. Wasn’t she in enough pain (both emotionally and physically) from Scott stabbing her??? Glad Derek’s not dead and that he got a power upgrade. It’ll be interesting to see if this is the impetus he needs to find out more about his mother since she was also a true wolf. Kate getting away really ticked me off. Even if Chris didn’t want to kill her, he could’ve shot her in the leg to keep her from getting away but of course the writers couldn’t find a more interesting way to get the Argents and the Calaveras off the Scooby Gang’s back.
It was disjointed, hit or miss, but I thought it had some very good episodes, alongside the odd ones. It reminded me a little of Season 3A, but thankfully didn’t descend to the same level of convoluted and confusing. Season 3B has been far and away my favorite thus far, and I hope that Season 5 will echo that one more.
I agree. Season 3B blew me away and 90% of the reason was Dylan O’Brien. I knew he was good from the pilot but season 3B made me realize he’s going to be great someday. He made a phenomenal villain; equal parts emotionally riveting and revolting. And yes, on 3A being very convoluted; it felt like they kept changing writers for the 3A arc and then hired a completely new set of writers again for 3B, which was why 3A was so messy and 3B was so different from 3A. To be honest, I’m kind of hoping 5A takes on the same tone as 3B since, to me, it’s been the strongest season in terms of pacing, writing, development.
Totally agreed. And yes, O’Brien is fantastic. I think he’s the strongest of the young actors on the show (although Holland Roden is pretty good as well, as was Crystal Reed). I’m actually planning to see The Maze Runner, which I’d normally have little interest in, simply because he’s the star.
Same here! I read the book a while ago but didn’t enjoy it. However, I’m definitely going to see the movie because of O’Brien. I agree also that Roden is good too! If the writing were stronger, with talent like O’Brien and Roden, this show would be a whole different beast.
I also think parish is a phoenix or the same as Kira different type though
I loved Season 4. Season 3B and Season 4 were excellent. I hated Season 3A and wasn’t all that into Season 2, but these most recent seasons really worked for me. But NO to Lydia and Parrish! Lydia and STILES belong together!!! The geek needs to get the girl!!!
Me, I’m really enjoying Lydia being focused on discovering her powers and becoming the supernatural Velma of Scott’s Scooby gang. I don’t want Lydia and Parrish together because I’d rather she stay single and learn more about being a banshee. That said, the geek already got the girl, and her name’s Malia. ;) I really like their pairing, actually, more than I think I’d like “Stydia.”
Stiles and Malia are a much better match than Stiles and Lydia. Styles had a school boy crush on Lydia for years. His relationship with Malia is real. I love the two of them together. They are so perfect together. Both feeling like they don’t fit in and just wanting to find their place.
I can’t stand Malia. Shelley Hennig replaced the excellent Shayna Rose as Stephanie Johnson on Days of Our Lives in 2007 and I have held a grudge against her ever since.
But I agree with u Lydia and Parrish should just stay friends.
And stydia must happen cuz stalia is just to wrong , rushed and especially forced!
There are so mANY “holes” in stalia’s story and honestly malia shouldn’t be in a relationship I mean come on all we saw in malia this season was her “relationship” with stiles . I think the most important relationship ( dad & daughter/ Peter & Malia) wasn’t developed at all !
Stydia have an emotional tether, a connection , a story and LOGIC!
” The best relationships come from friendships”
NO NO NO please just let Lydia and Parrish be friends! Am I the only one who’s still holding out hope for Stiles and Lydia? Sigh. Guess I’ll just wait another season.
Someone ask them why people on this show only transform into to werewolves once every 10 episodes. They transformed every episode in season one and two.
If that’s what you want, watch those seasons. Personally I find the makeup to be very distracting and odd-looking. I’m at a point where I can perfectly identify Scott and Derek as wolves without them wolf-ing out.
The Teen Wolf finale was awesome but that was expected. Loved the addition of Liam and Parrish this season.
So…. am I the only one who thinks there is a GIGANTIC continuity error in Peter’s character. In Season one he was this massive, scary (although completely CGI) beast!! But this season he just has terrible face makeup. I like the show but “wolf-man” makeup is cheesey. At least they don’t have Scott Running on all fours anymore.
Peter was an Alpha in season 1, therefore was able to shift into the complete cgi wolf!!!
Right but in between then he died, lost all his power, and came back. The CGI was really just a way to mask his identity and to draw a bigger line between betas, omegas, and alphas.
Season 4 was a big letdown for me. I stopped watching halfway through due to poor writing and inconsistencies. I DO NOT support the stiles / malia relationship. The reason being is that it has shown to be abusive, stiles appeared uncomfortable being the ‘little spoon’ and it was implied that malia gave him scratch marks or something along those lines that he was again, uncomfortable with. In my opinion, these things have happened because malia has been in coyote form for most of her life, so she has no experience or knowledge about what an actual relationship is. To be honest, malia’s character is not consistent with her situation. She has been living as a coyote for a good portion of her life, so she should have the mentality of a person much younger than she actually is shown to have. Also, due to her little hiatus from the human world, it would make sense for her to not want to be in a relationship at all. Most girls at the age malia was temporarily removed from society are still in the ‘boys are gross’ stage. Furthermore, if malia was shown in the correct mental state based on her backstory, she should not be able to be able to give consent and be in a consenting relationship at all. Alas, malia is shown to be at stage quite close to her peers, due to the plot holes so big you can drive a truck through them.
Speaking of relationships that don’t make sense, I also have a few issues with derek / braeden. While i admire both of their characters apart, I dont like how braeden has gone from being a tough mercenary to nothing more than a love interest that seems to live in derek’s bed. I dont understand why derek would want to start another relationship so quickly based on his frankly troubling past of being manipulated, abused, and used in his recent relationships. And why would he choose to start one with someone who kills frequently? What is that, the third one so far? You’d think that derek would be more careful about getting into relationships with murderers, especially with how the last two worked out. Actually, you’d think that derek would be more cautious about getting into relationships in general, if at all. Based on his history of being abused, it wouldn’t be a stretch to say that he would be put off permenantly from relationships. Again, I do admire both of the characters seperately, but together they just don’t add up.
S4 wasn’t all bad, however. I liked scott / kira, even if kira is quite a stereotypical character. Their relationship is fun and refreshing, its good to see scott move on after allison. (a very tough thing to do, allison was beloved by all of us in fandom and by a great majority of the charcters as well.)
Overall, S4 had a great deal more issues than seasons in the past. Plot holes were frequent, and that’s whaf put off myself, and a number of other viewers, based on the ratings. The main villain of the season, the benefactor, wasn’t written as well as it could have been. Certain questions remain unanswered. Who was the man that robbed the hale vault? How did Meredith know about the computers at Lydia’s grandmother’s beach house, and more importantly, how did she get there and activate them? The rocky introduction of many new characters was also a problem, and the lack of focus on the main characters & pack dynamics. This was supposed to be a lydia-focused season?
Advice to the teen wolf writers- develop your core characters more before you throw new characters at us with little introduction beforehand. And when you fire out new characters and relationships without proper development and setup beforehand, dont expect fandom to love and embrace them unconditionally. Especially the fans who analyze and, so it seems, expect too much of the show.
I sincerely hope that Braeden doesn’t come back. She was completely pointless, unless you count warming Derek’s bed to be a purpose. It wasn’t cute or whatever they were intending, it just made Derek seem so strangely written that people thought there were two of him going around. There wasn’t a spark for that ‘relationship’, it came across as a sex only sort of thing, and the crying bit at the end? Nowhere near as emotional as the writer’s were obviously intending. People who dislike seeing Stiles and Derek anywhere near each other agreed that the look back between them was more emotional than whatever Braeden was doing.
If she’s coming back, plenty of people won’t be. Not that a huge number wasn’t ditched the series already due to Malia, the new relationships (Stalia and Draeden), Braeden and most importantly the plot. I mean what was that mess? You could watch the first episode and the last and have felt as though you didn’t miss a thing. There was no progress, the plot is more or less back to where it started this season. We just got a wolf and a couple of unnecessary make out scenes that turned people off watching.
Whether or not people see chemistry with characters is subjective. I’ve seen tons of fans who enjoy Braeden and Derek. However, I see your point, especially since you threw in your dislike of Malia as well. Hello, Sterek fan! I think the real mess with any show is when fanbases think they can force the showrunners to see things their way.
I’m really exited about season 5 teen wolf when does it come out
They haven’t started writing it, let alone filming it, you’ve got a year or so to wait.
SERIOUSLY, is it just me or am I the only one thinking that Chris hunting down his sister with the calaveres may just be a spin off. I mine the ending was just like an episode that will create a spin off.
I’d prefer Malia to run and never come back, because her story didn’t make sense from the beginning. Don’t tell me otherwise, even Davis knows this and hoped “we would just forgive”. Nope, don’t construct a story around a feral child if you only intent to make her “wild” when it’s convenient for you. Always ready to have unprotected sex in dirty basements. Wow. Very edgy. So wild. Much hate.
But due to Hennig’s contract this will sadly only stay a wish, so I definitely won’t come back for season 5.
And for the love of god, please don’t let Breaden come back. Tandy might be an excellent beauty queen but she’s got no talent for acting at all. Her scenes in the final were so painful to watch. As she stared to “cry” I started to laugh and couldn’t stop for 3 minutes. You do not want to ruin emotional and dramatic scenes with somebody who can’t act to save their lives, no matter how much you like the actress.
Braeden will probably come back. At the end she was saying the reason she wasn’t a u.s. Marshall anymore was because she got obsessed with hunting down somebody called the desert wolf. Malias mom is the desert wolf so braeden was unknowingly hunting malias mom. I agree with Derek and Braeden I don’t really like them together. I feel like the only reason she with him is cause she felt bad for him losing his powers and not being able to find kate for him. They should throw in somebody like alison for Derek or like Kira who is already supernatural so he doesn’t have to worry about Paige happening again.
“There were bets going around about who the Benefactor was, and most of us got it wrong.” – This might be because it made not freakin’ sense! The story was
“There were bets going around about who the Benefactor was, and most of us got it wrong.” – That might be because the whole story made no freakin’ sense?! It was weak writing all together.
While I didn’t think season 4 was the best one I have seen I still really enjoyed it. Although a little slower it gave us more insight into the development of the characters. It is obvious they are all growing and maturing as the show goes on. This was specifically seen in Derek’s transformation. He is growing more and more and it is all because he has realised that he doesn’t need his powers to be the leader he needs to be. His friends come before his own life now.
I have a feeling that Peter is gonna come back trying to steal Scott’s power. What if that three-eyed dude sees something that Peter could use to escape and kills Scott? I just want Season 5 to come out. So excited!!! Parrish discovers his power, the desert wolf is found, Kate is found, Derek gets stronger, Chris Argent might help along with the Calaveras. Good job cast, producer, director etc
I think argent might not be coming back. Holland roden said somebody’s not coming back for season 5. The ending felt like a final send off for argents character to me. The only thing he has to live for is hunting kate. Wife’s dead daughters dead father is dying and sister is a psychotic killer who also happens to be a were jaguar
Here’s my thoughts about the finale: OMG DEREK. What happened to him is one of many thngs that I wanted for him and I hope he’ll have more screentime next season because he’s been criminally underused in S3b and S4. Let’s hope so since he fit that mantra pretty well.
I hope scrotum over comes what Kate I doing to him like he has everything else, I also think parish is a phenix or a kits in a because his eyes glowed like Kira the chemistry between Scott and Kira isn’t as intense as the chemistry with Allison
i’ve read a lot of the comments about Scott and Kira, and on that thought, i know that the thing i don’t like about her, is not that she’s with Scott and that i would prefer him with Allison, is actually that she seems weak! i mean she’s a kitsune she could be fierce and not play the victim screaming for help most of the time; but I do think Arden Cho is beautiful and an all around good actress; just don’t see the love interest as a necessity for Scott, on the season finale Liam was the one that brought “back” Scott and not Kira so for me that saids a lot.
Doesn’t matter what, I’m definitely watching next season, with the season finale they just left me with so many questions. Love Stiles, Derek and i know he’s evil but you gotta love a good villain and Peter makes a great one.
I agree. Kira is shown to be weak in most of the fighting sequences unlike Allison who, even though being a non-supernatural, was able to hold her own. The writers also need to make Kira’s character stronger and show more of her abilities. Honestly i can never see Lydia and Stiles being together coz there was nothing from Lydia’s side and Stiles has realized it and moved on. The only reason Liam was able to reach Scott when he was a berserkers is because he is Scott’s Beta. Betas and Alphas have a connection. Just like Derek, Scott is also evolving as an Alpha which can be seen in the fight between Peter and him. he was moving faster than ever. I hope the next season is a bit more exciting and faster and doesn’t include Peter trying to kill Scott its kind of becoming boring. Bringing back Jackson in the fold for Season 5 would definitely spark things up a lot. The last thing we heard about him was Lydia saying that he was in London and people have completely forgotten about him but he still is Derek’s beta. Jackson as the part of the group having some hidden motive. They should have concealed Parish’s true form, it is pretty must predictable that he is a phoenix as no other mythical creature is impervious to flames. And what about Cora Hale? Where is she? lots of questions about lots of character. Hope it is answered in the upcoming seasons.
Last year after starting to watch this awesome show and catching up on all of the season s and then Jackson left.I have been waiting to see for his return.his character was a jerk but was still interesting.also,what happened to Isacc? I HAVE LOVED EVERY SINGLE SEASON!!!
producers should make Scott have nightmares/hallucinations of Allison, which will make it hard for him to move on with Kira because he will feel guilty. It would be an interesting idea to tackle.
whats gonna happen between scott and his dad? Is he gonna tell his dad everything or keep him in the dark about beacon hills?
I think Stiles and Malia should continue what they have and Lydia should get with Parrish! I also don’t really like Kira but I know bringing back Allison isn’t an option.
I would like too wonder what happened to danny. Is he gonna back?
When will Scott take his true form and make his first evolution of being the alpha
Notice how nobody tried to kill lydia the whole season? Everybody was being chased but not her. Come on she was the second most valuable person on the list but nobody took a shot at her?
Notice how nobody tried to kill lydia the whole season? Everbody else was being chased around but not lydia. Come on now she was the second highest on the list but yet nobody took a shot at her?
I cannot wait for season 5 but really Peter needs to be dealt with eventually the whole plot if him never being killed is getting boring now. However I love that they didn’t kill Derek, big ups on that. Can’t wait to see how he Scott work together again in the next season. My 2 favourite wolves. I am so addicted to this show. It makes me mad I have to wait so long for the next season.
Can’t wait for season five best show
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