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A Mary Sue is an idealized character meant to be the Author Avatar (a character who shares traits with the author like name, appearance, beliefs, etc.) or a self-insert character for the reader to live through. Common Sue traits (note, having a few of these to a degree doesn’t necessarily make a true Sue):

-Exceptionally popular/gets lots of attention, even if the Sue is *supposed* to be shy, anti-social, or socially awkward. People are drawn to her, her advice is great, and she’s trusted fairly quickly.

-Only people who challenge or dislike the Sue are portrayed as mean, stupid, or villainous (and usually get a comeuppance)

-Has no real flaws, or ones that are meant to be endearing and relatable (popular ones are clumsiness, temper, awkward, and stubbornness) that are justified by the author or not even intentionally written. These ‘flaws’ will ONLY help her, never hurt her because she’s always right. (For example, she’s rightfully stubborn against something bad or she loses her temper on someone who deserves it.)

-She doesn’t have to suffer consequences for selfish, bad, or reckless behavior

-Exceptionally beautiful, often with exotic traits like unusual coloring meant to make her stand out physically.

-Magical tools/weapons

-Magical abilities/traits like wings, healing factor, immortality, etc.

-Unusual pet(s)

-is a Woobie (has a tragic past or crappy life) but is still perfect/likable despite what happened.

-Exceptionally talented or good at things the author deems good. The Sue might be bad at things the author considers stupid (girly things like sewing, fashion, etc. but good at “boyish” stuff or things outside the norm like fighting, reading, or weapons are common). Even if the talent/skill isn’t realistic for the time period (like being a scholar or warrior when you're a medieval peasant, for example).

-Usually or always get their way even when she’s actually in the wrong. Never gets called out for being wrong, but if they do, the person calling them out is portrayed as a jerk (see above). If she does do something wrong, she’s remorseful and is instantly forgiven.

-Good fashion sense, even if she’s meant to be a rough-and-tumble type or one who doesn’t care about clothes and is effortlessly attractive. Male characters will often comment on how they like this about her.

-Is a Special Snowflake who “isn’t like the other girls”. Something unique, physically or personality-wise, sets her apart from everyone else.

-A Friend to All Living Things. Animals like her and she loves everyone and forgives their imperfections. Willing to protect or risk all for someone she just met recently.

Summed up, the Mary Sue is meant to stand out from everyone else in a good way and is generally portrayed as the ideal character/role model, very cool and universally relatable, usually. Anyone who dislikes the Sue is the one portrayed as in the wrong.

All right, I'm conflicted now. I'll probably vote for Mulan or Elsa or Aurora. They have flaws the movie vaguely acknowledges (Mulan is clumsy, even though that's a huge Sue trait, Elsa panics too easily, and Aurora gets her hopes up too easily and indecisive).

All three are idealized, but the different eras idealized them for different reasons. As the most classic fairy tale heroine, Aurora is supposed to be likeable and ideal- that's how they are in fairy tales. But then I remembered part of Maleficent's curse was that she'd be "beloved by all who know her". I think if Disney hadn't been a genius he could have easily let her become a Mary Sue, but there's little layers there that prevent that. There's also this in case you guys are interested: link

Mulan, as it has been argued, doesn't really seem like a Sue with her clumsiness and awkward social skills, but that's what most Sues have to make them relatable and likeable. You never really hear anyone ever criticize her, IRL or in the movie, but if they do, they're portrayed as mean (the matchmaker and Chi Fu) and people IRL sometimes even get attacked for not liking Mulan. I see where both sides are coming from in the argument, though.

I think the Frozen directors unintentionally idealized Elsa quite a bit in their attempt to make Anna relatable and imperfect (ironically- normally it's the awkward characters who get unintentionally idealized). She's always noble, always selfless, always ready to take up her burden of shunning herself for others. But then you have that scene where she tries to kill two guys! But does the movie really ignore or justify it? I'm not sure. I myself think that was just OOC writing. Anyway, like Mulan you aren't really allowed to criticize Elsa, and it's hard to because what's to criticize? She's always putting others first and being responsible.

Still here?

Or Belle that's what I feel anyway.

she is the least mary sue and should be gone

I guess so

I really hope Aurora or Elsa goes before Mulan.

I will definitely have to vote for Aurora or Elsa next. Snow White IMHO is the most flawed Classic heroine, but her level of idealisation makes up for it. Aurora's flaws are less glaringly obvious, but she is also less idealised.

Her magical attributes were given to her because she is a princess, she was not simply born with them because she's cool like a Mary Sue would be. She makes decisions that end up hurting her later. She doesn't face going to the castle with a strong face- she breaks down in tears and rather feels sorry for herself.

Her eye colour is magical, but that wasn't very noticeable to most people in the film.

snow white is the most flawed of all these. she has to earn grumpy's affection and respect. they dwarfs listen to her cause she is their princess/ruler and is nice to them not because she's just so perfect. she makes a pretty bad mistake and it totally screws her over. she is a pretty ordinary person, no magic powers, no fighting skills, not a genius (not to insult!!)