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sobrenatural Does the seguinte episode of SPN look awesome or what? (When The Levee Breaks)
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Yes! I want to know what was going on in "soon"
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it was awesome : )
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No. looks like the worst episode ever
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A little, but I'm not sure
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also he's dying .. and it's his OWN freakin' fault! he started drinking DEMON BLOOD .. bad idea > horrible idea > stupid idea > all of the above.
he's turning INTO a demon! did you hear what Anna said about him seeming different?! =( she can see his true face - remember? like in that pysch ward.
Dean doesn't want his baby brother - who he pretty much raised - turning into something that he hunts. he doesn't WANT Sam to die .. and i'm sure in the end he'll do something to make sure he doesn't .. he just can't deal with Sam turning into a monster. and he'd rather have Sam die then have to KILL him for becoming evil.
I'm with Dean-girlx on this.Dean hasn't given up on Sam but has come to terms with the fact that Sam chose his own path.That's why he's trying to detox Sam from the demon blood.It's the same with drug addicts.It's painful and in most cases deadly but it was their own choice in the first place.Noone else is to be blamed for their own stupidity!
To use a line from Dean-girlx's comment: "...he just can't deal with Sam turning into a monster...", that's a good part of my point. HE can't deal with it. HE never could. Sam's had to LIVE with it, so I really don't care that poor Dean can't deal with it! He said in the car to Sam's face that he didn't care about Sam sucking blood. Nice Dean, really nice. He's known for a very long time about Sam using his powers, and he never did a damn thing about it. So now he decides to act and in desperation he does this??
Yes, what Sam is doing is wrong, I've never denied that. But whether he's deluding himself or not, he did it for what he felt were justifiable reasons, even if it did start off as revenge. It's not as black and white as saying that he's stupid and it's his own fault. Sure, he could have left Alastair to kill Dean and Castiel. Maybe he should have let Samhain raise all the demons he wanted. And I'm sure Castiel is very ungrateful that Sam saved Jimmy's wife, and all the other people he's saved along the way! The rest of my point is, that he's been between a rock and a hard place about using his powers. The situations I just mentioned were thrown in his lap; he didn't go looking for them. What exactly was he supposed to do??? Dean has been oblivious to this side of Sam using his powers; he's never acknowledged how torn Sam must have felt, not in any meaningful way.
Now he decides that Sam needs to be dealt with, after it's already gone too far. If he had put his own feelings of hurt and betrayal aside for just a little while, he could have made an honest effort to help the little brother he loved so much. I can understand him wanting to detox Sam from Ruby's blood, but that distinction must be made. He cannot detox Sam from the demon blood that has grown in him all his life, so how could he say that Sam would die human?? How can Dean be thinking straight??
"Do you even know how far off the reservation you've gone? How far from normal? How far from human??"
Dean wasn't under a siren's spell when he said this. And that says a lot about how he really feels about Sam.
As for your opinion that Dean doesn't care about Sam using his demon powers with the help of the blood, what about all those times he was shouting at him that what he's doing can't possibly be beneficial for both of them or for the innocent lives that would be spared if he didn't use his powers? And let's not forget that the reason why Sam resorted to the blood was out of pure revenge and not out of the goodness of his heart to be the saviour of the innocent and to put an end to the Apocalypse.This is merely a feeble excuse to justify his ways.
After all,Sam already knows that Dean is going to be the alpha-dog in the attempt to stop the rising of Lucifer, so he had the chance to back out of the demon blood project but he continued to do it behind Dean's back.
Despite my saying that Dean could have helped Sam, I never expected him to. It's not really any surprise that Dean locked him up; by this point all he could do was something drastic. I fully expected that the brothers would be split apart by the end of this season. But what Dean said about letting Sam die...that shocked me beyond anything else. Reverse their positions and think about how you would feel if it was Sam saying that about Dean; if it was Dean who had made a big mistake and fallen victim to his own bad judgment. I think the general attitude would be slightly more forgiving, and feeble excuses would be flying rampant on his behalf.
I look at Sam in a different way. I've seen Dean's side of it all along because honestly, he's not that hard to figure out. I understand the need for him to try to stop Sam in the only way he can think of. But he does NOT have the right to decide whether Sam lives or dies and hearing him say that...I'm sorry, but there is NO excuse good enough to warrant that, especially feeble ones.
I know how you feel about Sam and everyone blaming him for what he has become which is not entirely his own fault but we have to underline the fact that Sam made his choice whether we agree with it or not and so has Dean.
If it was Dean who was being manipulated by Bobby and Sam,I honestly would have agreed with them.It has nothing to do with Sam.Whatever character was in this position,I'd prefer him to die as a human being rather than become sth unatural that eventually would claim innocent lives(that was a general statement about people becoming supernatural creatures and not implying that Sam is a complete goner because I trully believe that he will get throufh this ordeal).
And again,we are exchanging opinions,no weapons are on the table,Wendy :)
And do you think this is easy for Dean? To watch the brother he loves change into a stranger over the course of a year and not know how to help him- or even what's really wrong with him?
And sure, Dean is prejudiced against Sam's demon side- but why shouldn't he be? It's inside Sam, but it's not who he is. It's something that was done to him and Sam has the choice of whether or not he let's it take over him. It is a choice, he's not helpless against it- as evidenced by the year he went without being affected by his powers at all. The only reason he started using them is out of pain, rage and bloodlust and IMO he became addicted long before the whole thing with the seals started.
Sure, they've been useful, but no one can deny that they come from evil, are fed by evil and are encouraged by evil(RUBY). They've changed Sam's personality, brought him so low that he couldn't stop himself from sucking blood out of some demon while his brother and an angel watched. He's become a deceitful, bloodthirsty, obsessed addict. And he knew, before he started using his powers, that negative consequences were probable (Look at what happened to every other psychic kid except Andy). He chose to take that risk because at the time he didn't care what happened and by the time Dean was resurrected he was already addicted and couldn't stop what he was doing.
And that's my two cents. :)
That said, you've made excellent comments, and I agree with some of what you said. My comment, 'how could he say that Sam would die human?' - resulted from a brain glitch. Sounds lame, but I know when I wrote that, somehow I was thinking that Dean wanted Sam's blood detoxified of all the demon blood, not just Ruby's, and if he died because of it, then at least Dean would consider him human. So I said he can't rid Sam of the demon blood he's had all his life, what is he thinking? I guess Dean was thinking straight, but I wasn't!
I know my original comment waaaaaay up there was very forceful, but whose aren't sometimes? I got so angry when Dean said that, and I reacted, then some of you reacted to my reaction, and that's fine. I don't mind at all debating something I've said, but I think things get read into my comments sometimes that shouldn't be, i.e. "Do you honestly think that Sam would really prefer to live like this the rest of his life?", and "And do you think this is easy for Dean?". No, I don't think that at all, in either case. I'm not happy with the way Dean has handled things this season, but I know it hasn't been easy for him. I'm not happy with what's happened to Sam, but I'm sure he wouldn't prefer to live like that for the rest of his life, either!
What I honestly hate? The attitude that Sam is 100% responsible for what has happened. There are circumstances, there have always been circumstances that have affected the choices each brother has made. Nothing is so black and white that circumstances should be excluded - not even Dean saying he would be willing to let Sam die, ;)))
But the fact that Dean is knowingly killing sam makes me squirm, at least he'll die human my ass. I realize that it is not easy fr dean to see his brother turn into a monster, but this is not the way to go, neither is killing ruby, because that will not help him or sam in any way. But what i wanna know is what is up with alastair? is he a dream or is he more? and what the hell is he torturing sam for?
Castiel seems to be acting a little strange for me all of a sudden he has gone cold,who is he getting his orders from? Maybe it's Lucifer and he doesn't know.
OMG I can't wait to find out.The wait is too long.
idk i like dean more this season.i dont like how they have developed sams character. he seems more and more unlikable every episode. but his powers are awsome! gerrr ruby needs to die! she started all this shit! (well sort of)
and let's remember here, it's the APOCALYPSE! tough decisons need to be made!
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