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Does anyone think that Harry Potter is a Gary Stu?

Personally, I don't. But alot of people I know think he is. What's your opinion, kittehs?
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Not to be the stupid one here, but whats a Gary Stu??
volleyblue13 posted over a year ago
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oh yea, what is it?
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Cinders said:
Not at all.

While I like Ginny, I have seen the case made for how SHE can be a Mary-Sue, and I can accept it. However, I don't think that any such case could be made for the character of Harry Potter.

I think Harry has mais in common with Luke Skywalker than the proverbial Gary Stu. He's impetuous, often acts without thinking, and can, at times, be blinded por emotion. As Plenilunio, he has several flaws, and is por no means a two dimensional character. He makes interesting choices that often come at great prices. For example, he jumps the gun when he bravely (but, let's be honest, stupidly) makes the decision to rush in and save Sirius from Voldemort. Because of this impulsive choice, it costs him Sirius's life.

Harry is depicted as deeply human. I wouldn't say he's overcome his "dark past", like plenty of Gary Stus and Mary Sues (who seem to sprout like daisies out of manure). He's traumatized por it, through to the very end, and desperate to live up to the expectations that people have of him, but not sure how to do it.

For every asset Harry has, he also has a fault. In addition to being brave, loyal, and ingenious, he's also judgmental, impetuous, and, at times, close-minded. Several times, Hermione has to remind him to look at a situation from a different perspective, and he doesn't always listen to her. He sometimes makes bad choices, and sometimes figures out a way to fix them. Harry's preference to see the world painted in black and white (instead of shades of gray) is one of the things that makes him blind to Snape's true alignment.

In short, Harry is a very interesting and well-rounded character. Far from the cut-out, serve-no-purpose Gary Stu. And Harry isn't a projection of who JKR wishes she was. JKR has admitted that she sees mais pieces of herself in Hermione, mais than any other character, not Harry. So I don't see anyway that Harry can be seen as a Gary Stu.
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Plenilunio said:
Well, no, I don't think so. He's not:
a) stunningly beautiful
b) the most intelligent
c) the most powerful
d) always unbeatable
e) the one with the biggest success among females
f) the most popular (as in "the one with the most friends")
g) ostentatiously rich
h) friends with perfectly perfect people
i) unflawed
j) son/brother/whatever of someone terribly important

Actually, the only Gary Stu traits I see in him are his dark past, the fact that he's got money (but he's not constantly boasting about it!) and the fact that he's the main character, obviously. Sometimes, the difference between a powerful character and a Gary Stu is a matter of measure and existence/absence of flaws. Sure, Harry is a powerful character, but he's in no way perfect and, although he saves the day, he doesn't do it on his own, but always helped por others.
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1) he's described as attreactive. 2) he's smart, just not necessarily Hermione smart (which isn't the only type of intelligence out there, anyway). 3) he's a VERY powerful wizard. honestly not sure how that was missed? HE BEAT VOLDEMORT.4) When did he lose any serious battles? 5) lots of girls like him, yes. in fact the only ones that don't if IIRC are "bad" girls like Pansy (who is a poorly done character anyway) and...that's it.6) he IS rich! seriously, how did you miss that? and what does that have to do with anything? 8) yep, Cedric likes him, the Weasleys like him, Ginny CERTAINLY likes him. 9) he does have flaws- but JK doesn't always portray them as such. THAT is what makes a Sue, guys. it's not hard to get! 10) Uh, gee, only James Potter, a talented popular guy. seriously, you guys need to look up what a Sue is because very little of that has anything to do with Sues and as I proved he does indeed have many Sue traits.
AudreyFreak posted over a year ago
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Actually, he's described as pretty average looking with some unattractive traits. The only time he's described as being really popular with girls (other than Ginny) was in book 6 and that was due to his fame. He's also not extremely smart, most of his grades are just above average I think, other than in DADA. He's not extremely popular, he has moments when only Ron and Hermione remain his friends, and sometimes just one of those. He does make mistakes, particularly when trying to play the hero and save the dia alone.
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Muzzow said:
Harry Potter is probably the biggest Gary Stu ever. Even with the filmes being such fun to watch, I was always put off por the blatant fawning and the way he was portrayed.
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anaswill said:
No, he's not a Gary Stu at all. Some of his most defining personality traits are flaws, such as:
- Anger/impulsiveness that leads him to make stupid and rash decisions
- Stubborness that makes him hold onto grudges long past when he should have let them go and again, affects his decision-making
- Bad instincts. I'm not saying they're always wrong, but unlike a lot of MCs from other books, his instincts are often if not usually wrong. Take him thinking Snape was evil for so long, for example, or thinking that Voldemort had Sirius in OOTP.
- Rudeness. In some cases it is necessary and it does show that he has a quick wit but he doesn't need to be so defensive as often as he is.
- Judgemental. He has a hard time seeing things from any point of view but his own and those similar to his own. Take the fall out with Cho for example.
- Laziness. Now, he's not Ron Weasley lazy, but he's definitely had some slacker moments throughout the books and movies.
- Chronic hero syndrome. Some people think of this as a strength, but I personally think it's a flaw. This is when a character is over the topo, início trying to protect everyone, thinks he should be the only one risking his neck for the greater good, etc... This is understandable, given he's been told he's "the Chosen One" or "the Boy who lived" or whatever since he was 11. But still.
- Black and white morality. He really seems to believe, at least for the majority of the books/movies, that you are either cookie-cutter good or bad and there was no in between. I think por the end of the series though, due to Sirius' wisdom, seeing the good in Snape and the bad in Dumbledore (Snape whom he'd always hated and Dumbledore whom he'd always admired) helped him see the world differently.

There are other flaws Im sure I'm missing, but these are the ones I thought of off the topo, início of my head. Honestly, Harry is nowhere near being my favorito HP character, but I think he's one of the most flawed and well-written MCs in popular children/young adult fiction.
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libsrocks said:
No! How on earth does Harry match any personality traits of Gary Stu?

Harry is quick-witted but not smart like Hermione.
Harry is biased about his views over everything, specially, school houses.
Harry can be stupid, reckless and narrow-minded at times.
Harry lacks the ability to look at the bigger picture. Many a times, few things in books looked surprising to us simply because Harry was unable to think beyond his thoughts.
Harry is hot-headed and can be aggressive and impatient.
Harry isn't an excellent student of wizard. He just works hard to become good at things he wants to be good at.

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