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posted by ryomaidol
My cousin says we, Harry Potter fãs are insecure about this ranting. How should I respond to this?!


(I HAVE TAKEN THINGS FROM OTHER artigos HERE, sorry if used without permission)


HERE IS THE ACTUAL CONVERSATION:

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: says Twilight ang pasimuno ng mga JEJEMON (ANGRY) (Twilight started the Jejemon movement)
46 minutos atrás via Plurk · Comment · Like · View comments on Plurk

** ******: weh? PROVE IT!!!
41 minutos atrás ·

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: link wahahahah
33 minutos atrás ·

** ******: duh! nonsense!
23 minutos atrás ·

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: haha Twilighters are retards~! LOL
22 minutos atrás ·

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: ok, PROVE it is nonsense~!
21 minutos atrás ·

** ******: i don't care!now i know.. Harry potter fãs are truly insecure with TWILIGHT! duh! wala kayong mga magawa!! hahaha.. baka kayo ang mga JEJEMONS!! :))) (you cannot do anything with your life, maybe you're the JEJEMONS)
20 minutos atrás ·

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: You're not answering my question.
18 minutos atrás ·

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: BTW, Twilight fãs are the ones who are insecure, saying that Edward is hot and that is the reason why Bella loves him. That's it? When you look at someone, it is on the outside, not the inside. My, my, the world's has gone Topsy-turvy. What if Edward is ugly?

Another thing: Twilight does not have love. Bella does not amor Edward. She would never have even looked twice at him if he weren't oh so gorgeous. It is pure lust. Same goes for Edward. If she didn't smell so wonderful, do you think he would have cared? If he could read her thoughts, he would be repulsed. As for the whole Imprinting thing? It is an excuse, an easy way out, a way for Meyer to make Jacob fall in "love" with Renesmee without looking like a pedophile. In Harry Potter, there are all different types of love. There is romantic amor (Ron and Hermione are the cutest couple on the face of the earth! And there's failed relationships, look at Harry and Cho. Haha), amor of friends (Harry would die for his friends, and they would do the same for him), unrequited amor (if you weren't touched por Snape's story, you must be heartless!), motherly amor (Lily dying to save Harry, Molly Weasley killing Bellatrix for her amor of fred figglehorn and Ginny), and all sorts of things. If you want to talk romance, though, let me tell you; Ron and Hermione fell in amor slowly through the years. They didn't know each other for, what, one week? then say "Oh, I am eternally in amor with you! You are my one true love!" They are in love, not overpowered lust.
16 minutos atrás ·

** ******: obvious naman eh.. mga insecure kase mga harry potter fans! (It's obvious, harry potter fãs are insecure)
15 minutos atrás ·

** ******: harry potter is just a fictional story! do you believe in potions?magic spells? etc?
12 minutos atrás ·

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: vampiros are also fictional :P
10 minutos atrás ·

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: Twilight is por no means mais realistic than Harry Potter. Yes, I know, Harry Potter has magic, Twilight takes place in a real setting. First thing: the "logic" in Twilight is embarrasing. It is clear that Meyer did as little research as possible, not really thinking things through before deciding what happens. Harry Potter, on the other hand, does not need logic. It's magic! Secondly, the characters of Harry Potter are a lot mais realistic that those of Twilight. Besides being well developed, the characters of Harry Potter are not passing for "perfect". Each one has flaws and strengths, and each reacts appropriately for different situations. Twilight, on the other hand, is extremely unrealistic when it comes to character reactions. For example, Bella is one of the least likable characters of all time (I will get to her later on, though), yet everyone seems to amor and ADORE her. In fact, anybody who does not amor her either changes their mind later on or is viewed as a bad guy, a bitch, or extraordinarily shallow. Also, did you notice that in Forks High School, there are only two cliques? The Popular Folks and The Vampires? Not to mention, the two groups merge into one in the end. At Hogwarts, you have Gryffindors, Hufflepuffs, Ravenclaws, Slytherins, Quidditch Players, Pranksters, Extreme Studiers, Dumbledore's Army, fã Girls, Rich Folk, Death Eaters To Be, Bullies, Outcasts, the list goes on.
9 minutos atrás ·

** ******: yeah I know.. but Spells are mais FICTIONAL! :P
about a minuto atrás ·

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: binasa mo ba yung sinulat ko, LOGIC ang hinahanap hindi fiction~! (Did you read what I posted, LOGIC is the important one, not the fictionality (there is no word as fictionality) of it.)

** ******: sorry hindi ko binasa! boring kasing basahin! :P (Sorry if I did not read it, it was so boring)

** ******: And besides, I'm not interested! and I DON'T CARE!! Opinion lang naman yang mga yan eh!!!
49 segundos atrás · (It's just an opinion!)

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: But it is the DAMN TRUTH~!

** ******: damn truth?! okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! whatever!


I do not think we are insecure, we are just fighting for a cause, right?
posted by Kersian
Okay this is mais of an opinion, since my view of the activity is based off opinion.

Now whenever someone posts something on the internet and someone else responds negatively to it, they respond in the same way to that person. In a very negative tone. This is in fact what I see at times in forums.

First Twilight and Harry Potter fans, if you post anything on the internet, whether they are opinions or facts, you have responsibilities with it. You are exposing yourself to others in the internet. You are responsible for the positive or negative replies. So don't blame others for your actions....
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posted by potteralltheway
I have actually read both series and liked Twilight okay, but Harry Potter rules for me!

First, the so often brought up topic... love, or lack thereof. Harry Potter consists of all sorts of love: family, parental, romantic, friend. Twilight consists of pure lust. Now for the evidence! Mrs. Molly Weasley killed Bellatrix Lestrange because Bellatrix nearly killed Ginny, her only daughter. The Weasleys all look out for each other, and even Percy apologized in the seventh book. They joined together in dark times, happy ones, sad ones, and when fred figglehorn died. You might say the Cullens show family love....
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I'm going to start doing artigos like this because I think it's fun and I just wanna see who thinks one character is better than the other.

Before you guys start, let me tell you my opinion. I think that Bellatrix is the better villan because she's mean, crazy and cruel but also happens to have good fighting skills, even though I hate her for hurting Hermione. She's also not afraid [potterheads correct me if i'm wrong] to kill others. She pretty much has the ultimate personality and guts that Villaness's have.

Those are my opinions. Now... feel free to add yours!! Enjoy:)
PREFACE - THE JEALOUS-FALLACY IN ITS MANY FORMS

Alright, I have already dissected one very common fallacy invoked por some Twilight fãs and a few Harry Potter fãs as well, the Edward-fallacy. I shall not discuss that one but instead I will be moving on and examine another common fallacy invoked por some fans, using what I believe is the two most common forms of it.

"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"

Firstly, let us examine the logical reasoning behind "You are just jealous, therefore your argument is invalid".
It is invoked when any fã post an argument and employes this...
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1. It has better writing.
2. It's plotline is better.
3. I'd rather read a book about a teenage boy going to a wizardry school and fighting a dark sorceror than one about a ditzy girl who's way too obsessed with her sparkly boyfriend.
4. The characters are mais relateable.
5. J.K. Rowling is not afraid to kill off plenty of good guys.
6. Most of the characters' educations actually matter to them.
7. It doesn't have thousands of rabid fangirls.
8. The characters are mais three-dimensional.
9. It stays true to mythology.
10. It has mais types of amor in it, not just romantic and sexual amor (or should...
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harry potter is now logged in
harry ;anyone here i bored and can't do Magie
Ginny;y w has now logged in
ginny; yea am here this is why better then are old owl lol
harry; huh? lol wants that tell ron say hi d hi
ron w has lodged in
ron; hi harry was up and ginny get out of this chat room
ginny; u can't make me
harry; ron ginny be nice and can any one till me what lol and waz means
ginny; lol means laughter out loud and wazwantt is up
ron ;lol means laughh out loud and waz want is up
ginny; you took the words right out of my mouth
edwardcullen has now logged in
edwardcullen; I WEAR GIRLS CLOTHS AND AM A SPIKING VAMPIRE WHO HAPPENS TO BE IN amor WITH A HUMAN GIRL
harry; freak
ron; yea
ginny; get off hear your in the wrong chat room go to the one with the six ano olds
edwardcullen; ok
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