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This artigo was NOT written por me. I found this somewhere else as a comment and thought it was great and that it should be shared. Don't give any credit to me. I just copy pasted.

First of all- Harry Potter isn’t just a childish bedtime story. Nor is it shallow. A story based off a single dream has no depth. Twilight fãs will never what kind of man James was before he turned vampire. Rowling, however, spent 15 years planning every little detail. She created a world within our own for her witches and wizards. She has based their heritage off of real mythology and history. Their spells are in a dead language and they have organized governments with strict laws. She has followed her characters’ stories from childhood to graduation and many times to their deaths. One of the best things about this series is that you can study these intricate details. The Twilighters can only argue about who Bella will marry. In Harry Potter, there are arguments over everything from Snape’s loyalty, to the cryptic meaning of Trelawney’s prophesies, to petty ship-wars. In Twilight, very few people ask the perguntas “What does she mean por that?” “Are these two little details supposed to be connected?” “How did she get that idea?” “Does this result differently than we think it will?” To Potter fans, these are common, everyday questions. Like an amusing childhood fairytale, Meyer’s “saga” is to be taken for face value; delving deep within will display its undesirable flaws. The mere fact that Harry Potter makes you think, makes you pergunta Rowling, and causes you to come up with creative theories proves its superiority.

One of the primary arguments presented por Twilighters is that their book is mais emotional that Harry Potter. I, however, beg to differ. Let’s delve into the subject of love, after all that is the primary emotion in Twilight. In Twilight, there is only one kind of affection found: an obsessive, oppressive, “without him I become a dull zombie” wet dream. Unlike Twilight, Harry Potter proves that there is incredible power in love, and that amor doesn’t always work out. Unfortunately, I have to agree with WhatIsRightOrWhatIsEasy; neither of these books even compare in romance to Jane Austin. In Harry Potter, we have many different kinds of amor present: Parental love, romantic love, sibling love, platonic love, childhood crushes, and unrequited love. There are two loves in particular that aren’t present in Twilight: parental amor and unrequited love.

The parental amor found in Harry Potter is incredibly rich. Molly Weasley and Lilly Potter are perfect examples of motherly love, and display it in their own special ways. Lilly sacrifices her life to protect Harry. The magic that results aids Harry until the Goblet of Fire. Stop and think about THAT for a moment. If a murderer or a kidnapper tried to separate you from your child, would you be willing to die to protect your child? What if you knew that there was only a slim chance of your baby surviving and growing up afterwards? This is one of the most beautiful acts of courage and selflessness in the entire series. The other super-mom, Molly, has an intense amor for her children. While she scrambles to make ends meet, she still has plenty of room in her big coração for Harry and Hermione; Harry comes to see her as a segundo mother. She is also ferociously protective of her children. After Bellatrix attempts to kill Ginny, Molly singlehandedly takes down her daughter’s attacker. In Twilight, you neither see Bella’s mother or Bella displaying this much amor and strength for their babies. The lesson: Never EVER mess with a mad mama- you will pay with your life. The Harry Potter men also make better dads. They support, protect, teach, and laugh with their kids; they wouldn’t think twice of dying for them, and will raise and care for their friend’s children. Sirius Black escapes prison and becomes a wanted fugitive to protect Harry, and later Harry raises Teddy Lupin after the Battle of Hogwarts. James Potter goes down fighting to protect his baby boy as does Remus. In the Epilogue of Deathly Hallows, Ron is seen loving on his daughter. Unlike Miss Swan’s father, he refuses to just sit around watching TV and be deceived. Instead, he jokes and encourages his daughter; it’s evident that he’s rightfully proud of her, and he’s going to let the whole world know that. Arthur Weasley is the same way. amor and dedication. It’s obvious that the Cullens stand no chance against that.

What about unrequited love, the most painful emotion ever to exist? All I have to say is one name: Severus Snape. After befriending Lilly as a child, he fell in amor with her, only to be denied her amor in return. Their original friendship survived house rivalries and Marauder ridicule for five years; even after losing her as a friend, Snape continued to amor Lilly and remained fiercely loyal to her long after her death. The most emotional thing about Snape’s amor for Lilly is that he felt that he was the cause of her death. He realized that his handful of mistakes lead to a lifetime of regret. He could have begged for death or even committed suicide, but he remained strong and kept all of that, pain, remorse, and amor inside. Now that’s passion.

Another thing that Rowling succeeds in doing that is missed por Meyers is recognizing the reality of adolescence. Not everyone in the world is the popular new girl who manages to snag the hottest guy in school, and Rowling knew this. Where in Twilight do you see the person that everyone teases, turns their backs on, and snubs? They aren’t found in Forks. Who are the oddballs, klutzes, victims, social outcasts, recluses? They don’t exist. In Harry Potter, almost everyone takes these roles at least once, although there are some whose names stand out: Neville Longbottom, Luna Lovegood, Snape, even Hermione and Harry. Are there any idiots in Twilight who are likely to fail school? Beyond anyone who finds sparkly vampiros attractive, there are no Crabbes or Goyles in that series. What about school bullies? And no, James and his little gang don’t count. Twilight, the utopia where people don’t pick on and torment each other has never existed, doesn’t exist, and until Judgment Day, never will. Just ask Draco. There are dozens of cliques in the teenage world with thousands branches, but Meyers chooses to only portray 3: the popular, ordinary kids, the mysterious “vegetarian” vampires, and a pack of Native American shape-shifting werewolves. In Harry Potter, the cliques can be as broad as the four Houses, or as small as an individual person. There are the Quidditch players, the study-holics, the quirky pariahs, the fan-girls of the current heartthrob, Dumbledore’s Army, Inquisitorial Squad, Slug Club, the pranksters, the Slytheryns, Death Eaters in training, etc.

The most important emotions and themes present in Harry Potter that isn’t even found in Twilight is prejudice. It is only alluded to twice in Twilight- lobisomens vs. vampires, and Bella’s hybrid baby. In Harry Potter, it is one of the cornerstone motifs. There is rivalry between houses- especially Gryffindor and Slytheryn. “Pure-Bloods” shun their muggle-born counterparts, who they call “mud-bloods”. Part-blood wizards in Slytheryn are pressured to disown their muggle roots, which leads Snape to call himself the “Half-Blood Prince,” and Tom Riddle to become Lord Voldemort. Whole blood wizards and witches who sympathize with muggle-borns are called “blood-traitors.” In the seventh book, this blood-based discrimination is very pronounced; the Death Eater controlled Ministry of Magic orders a roundup of muggle-born witches and wizards, who get sent to Azakaban. Even Hermione, who manages to dodge court, gets a brutal taste of this intolerance. While captured with Harry and Ron in the Malfoy’s mansion, it is she who is tortured por Bellatrix, primarily for her blood status. That sounds like a real Holocaust to me. Remus, who is a good man and skilled wizard, is forced into permanent unemployment just because he is a werewolf. Dumbledore shows a mercy that looks beyond the common bigotry when he offers him a job as the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. When parents find out his secret, they are outraged and force him to resign. Hagrid is even attacked por Umbrige, and it’s barely coincidence that he happens to be half-giant. Prejudice doesn’t even stop among wizards. House elves are reduced to slavery for wealthy wizarding families, and even in their freedom, most have no other occupation but in the kitchens. Goblins are held with mistrust por many wizards after they stage a revolt while seeking equality. Righteously outraged centaurs attack Umbridge after she calls them beasts of sub human intelligence. One of the reasons that Harry managed to win the final battle was that he and his allies managed to put their prejudices aside and unite to fight an evil.

In fact, there are many social issues in Meyer’s “saga” that lack conviction; for one, there is the almost total lack of social class stratification in Twilight. In Harry Potter, there are the incredibly rich Malfoys, the massive inheritance bestowed upon Harry, the middle-class Dursleys and Grangers, and at the bottom, the Weasleys, who survive from paycheck to paycheck (pre Wizardly Wheezes). Foreign influences in vampire world are limited to the Italian Volturi and a few feral vampires. Foreigners in Harry Potter include the French Beauxbatons and the Eastern European Drumstang- which includes the Bulgarian Viktor Krum. There are mentions of Foreign Ministries of Magic and even magical organizations in North America. While Bill worked as a curse-breaker in Egypt, and Charlie was among dragões in Romania, Voldemort laid low in Albania. During the Triwizard Tournament, different breeds of dragões from multiple nations are pitted against the competitors; they include the Hungarian Horntail, the Chinese Fireball, the Swedish Short-Snout, and a Welsh Green.

And don’t even get me started on the topic of feminism. Twilight is full of gender role stereotypes that ARE vampires- these sexist notions should have been dead decades ago, but instead continue to haunt this world and suffocate women of what they truly deserve. Here are some of the chauvinistic concepts present: Bella happily cooks jantar and cleans house for her father as he cleans his gun, drinks a beer, and watches football on TV. Like some housewife from the 1950’s, she acts like belongs in the kitchen. This is the 21st century, where guys can cook too! Despite Edward’s urging her to get an education and encourages her to hope and dream, she decides to stay at home, cook, and care for the family. Although I have no problems with a stay at início mom, something is definitely wrong when every woman in the series shares the same occupation. Methinks Meyers’ women enjoy staying início hiding behind their husbands. Then Edward decides to begin dictating who she may be friends with, going to the point of removing the tires from her truck. ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP ALERT!! Bella also completely falls apart when Edward leaves her, and only recovers when she begins spending time with Jacob. What’s with the constant need for a man in her life? Whenever she is exposed to peril, Jacob or Edward must come to the rescue. Bella isn’t even seen fighting side-by-side with Edward; usually she’s hiding somewhere behind him as he goes in for the kill. After discovering that Forks is in western Washington, I was even mais surprised por this sexist point of view because Washington is usually pretty liberal.

This is much different than the Trio; Harry and Ron’s survival is quite dependent on Hermione’s intelligence, quick wit, and guidance. At one point, in the Chamber of Secrets, Ron ends up admitting “Where’s Hermione when you need her?” Compared to Twilight, there is no dearth of equality for women in Harry’s world. Here women can be feminine without being submissive. In the rough game of Quidditch, there are many talented female players: Angelina Johnson, Katie Bell, Alicia Spinnet, Ginny and Cho. The Holyhead Harpies is a professional all women’s team in the sport. Women also rise to prominent positions in government. Umbridge-no matter how corrupt she is- had a high standing position in the Ministry of Magic; later we learn that Hermione rises through the ranks in the same government and leads reforms that undo centuries of prejudice. They had their first woman Minister of Magic in the 1750’s! The muggle world was still being dominated por guys at that time. The females in Harry Potter truly kick ***! In the Battle of Hogwarts, students and alumni of all genders and ages unite to defend their school. Formidable female fighters on both sides include Bellatrix Lastrange, Ginny, Professor McGonnagal, Mrs. Weasley, and Tonks. Even Luna is a strong, quirky character who manages to hold her own.

And to everyone saying that the vampiros of Twilight are fitter, sexier, and tougher than our wizards, I’ve got some news for you. You people really have your attraction priorities messed up. From what I’ve read of Twilight, I assume that por fitter you mean mais muscular. Too many muscles on a guy is as bad as no muscles at all. In New Moon, Bella got pretty bruised up, if you know what I mean. You see, in Quidditch, the players get toned, flexible, and quick. Holding and navigating a vassoura probably requires strong thigh and hip muscles- when a guy has those, it’s hottest thing ever. Quidditch players also have to make quick swerves to dodge bludgers, twist their bodies to catch quaffles, reach just a little farther than their opponent to grab the snitch, and need strong arms to hurl quaffles and hit bludgers. Also, we Harry Potter fãs know that brains equal beauty. A person can be the fittest naco, pedaço, hunk in the universe, but if they don’t have brains or wits, they are hideous. I’m sure that there are Harry Potter fãs here in this blog who think that the Weasley twins’ witty pranks, Hermione’s intense knowledge, and any other genius, sharp-tongue, or Ravenclaw is a turn-on. Harry Potter’s characters earn their sexiness. Only the luckiest have genes on their side. In the terms of physical and mental attraction, I think that’s hotter than anything Twilight could offer- undead beings whose bodies automatically become glittery, super-strong, and super fast when they turn into vampires. So keep your “perfect” vamps; we have hot Quidditch players and gorgeous brainaics- the best of BOTH worlds.

I don’t think Meyers knows much about animals- either that or the fictional residents of Forks are incredibly stupid. In New Moon, these civilians describe the lobisomens as looking like bears. Seriously, Forks is in Washington- they should know a urso when they see one! This detail is one of my pet peeves with Twilight because I volunteer at a zoo that has two Timberwolves, a Siberian Grizzly, and a pair of Black Bears. To set Meyers straight, bears and lobos are drastically anatomically and socially different. The closest they come to being related is that they both belong to the Suborder Caniformia.
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posted by hpotterforever7
Ok, well I'm going to be perfectly respectful in this artigo because I don't want to make anyone mad, I just want to make a point. If you agree or disagree with it, that's up to you. Please don't be rude inthe comment section, and give reasons for opinions. Thanks!

Now I can start. May I just start por saying that I am on the Harry Potter side (with all due respect to Twilight fans)

I've noticed that one of the things Twilight fãs say is that Bella is a mais relatable character than Harry. I think that that is a good point because technically, you can be a normal teenager who goes to school...
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posted by LavenderBrown
Some people (not necessarily Americans) have admitted having trouble with the British words in Harry Potter. To solve this problem, I give you...An Americans Guide to British words!

1) Prat
Someone who is described as being dumb or self centered. Usually acts against logic.
e.x. Jeez, Roldolfo is such a prat!

2) Git
Basically, a jerk. Shallow and/or childish.
e.x. Look at that git, strutting around like he owns the place!

3) Err...
The British equivalent of umm...
e.x. "Errr.... is it 42?"

4) Barmy
Insane/Crazy.
e.x. That old mans gone barmy!

5.) Blast
Equivalent to "Dang!"
e.x. Blast! Some git's taken...
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Twihards or Rabid fãs (thats obsessive Twilight fans, all of you): Don't read this. I don't want to get mauled or drowned.
I apologize for any spelling or grammar errors.
Don't get me wrong- I like Twilight just fine. However, many parts of it really annoyed me. Here are my reasons why I liked Harry Potter better.

1. Characters.
Lets compare:
Lead female role in HP: Hermione Granger. Flaws: a bit nerdy, Know-it-all, and Bossy. Good traits: Stood up for herself (as well as think for herself), worked against racism (for house-elves), was loyal to Harry at all times, and didn't try to kill herself...
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posted by SpeedyGonzalez
I Speedy Gonzalez did not write this I merely copied and pasted it. The original may be found link.

I got Breaking Dawn on the dia that it came out and was hoping that Meyer would somehow redeem the steadily deteriorating quality of the Twilight series. What a huge disappointment. I was even mais disappointed when I found out how Meyer was responding to the criticism towards it. Then I discovered that she was composição literária Midnight Sun. I looked progressivo, para a frente to that because, even though all of the books suck, they are a guilty pleasure and Twilight was the best of all of them. Then she stopped writing...
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posted by lilcherrywine
Dear friends,
This is my first attempt at composição literária a creative article. I've attempted the facebook page of HP, and hope you like it. Sorry for the lame humor, it's my very first time. Thanks for reading, and please drop in your comments, because I need your opinion. Thanks again.


HP’S fb page


HARRY POTTER

Went to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
Lives in London.
Knows English, Parseltongue
From Godric’s Hollow
Born on July 31, 1880




Cho Chang: Harry, I had a trip with dad and mom to Forks last week and I spotted Cedric there. Yes, Harry, I saw him. I don’t know what’s happening, I mean,...
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Now to anyone of the teensy-beensy minority that has never heard of Twilight's male protagonist, Edward Cullen, he supposedly a vampire that falls in deep "love" with a human girl named Bella.

Now I must object to this descrição of the Edward and Bella (Edella or Bedward, lol). While the relationship is described as being true love, I personally think that the relationship is any BUT deep, true love. It is, in my, along with many other fanpoppers, opinion that this relationship is extraordinarily unhealthy and codependent, and that Edward's supposed "love" is obsessive love.

Obsessive love:...
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posted by PotterLambert93
Today, I read a post from "youknowit101" on "1000 Reason why Twilight is better than harry Potter", and it completley gave me segundo thoughts about this whole thing between the rival series. According to this guy, he is very ashamed at the HP fãs for attacking the Twilight fãs and how immature they are, and to be honest, I now couldn't agree more. He's right, HP fans, we are the immature ones, not the Twilighters. We Potterheads are taking HP for granted and using it to rub it in other people's faces.

Now I see why Twilight fãs barley respond to the debates and articles, and it's because...
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posted by sy-sy
why deos twilight annoy me? because when twilight came out everyone 4 got hp then the new hp movie came out and they loved hp again thgen twilight movie came out people just cant make up their minds well i can ive seen all the hp movie so far and twilight and even though hp leave s out some stuff its still TEN times better twilight is annoying becuz they think they can come in and steal the whole show that why oppion of a hpfan gcsfdsjhvcdshvcwrivhrweuvghbersvksfdhvsklvhjsdfvklsdfvb dfc bvhdx jkhdfvoperfcujrehvcjfdvhhhjukdsxhcdsjcv
posted by SpeedyGonzalez
I, SpeedyGonzalez did NOT write this. I just merely copyed and pasted it.

Ah, yes, Stephenie Meyer, author of the Twilight series. My opinion of her, from the way that she has presented herself to the public in interviews and such, is that she is a whiny, self absorbed woman with the mind of a 13 ano old. She can't deal with criticism because it hurts her delicate little feelings, and believes that she is an amazing writer and that her story and characters are somehow superior to those seen in the works of people such as Jane Austen and William Shakespeare. Here's one statement that shows that...
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Okay, so a lot of people have been asking that I put mais debate stuff and reasons why I think Twilight is better. Now that we're all friends and don't hate eachother anymore, I hope we can all have a reasonable debate.

But before I start, I want to say that I don't compleatley hate Harry Potter anymore. I saw the Deathly Hallows today, my friend is somewhat of a fan, and wanted to see it. I reluctaintly went with her, and it actually wasn't that bad. You see, I read the first-fourth Harry Potter books, and read most of the seventh. The Deathly Hallows movie was much better than the book in...
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Hello everyone!

I'm planning on composição literária a letter to Stephenie Meyer regarding the Twilight series. I wanted to address all the points many people do not like in the series. The letter is going to be friendly and straight-forward. I wanted to hear what everyone would want me to include. These are a few of the topics I am going to be including:

- Anti-feminism
- Abusive relationship
- Unhealthy obsession
- Lust does not equal amor
- Bella is horribly rude to her friends (not valued friendships)

These are just a few. Please add anything and if there is something specific you'd like me to add.

I'll be working on this letter and posting on Sunday on Fanpop, so I can add anything else and have your approval and then I will send it to her.
I understand that Seth probably won't let it get to her, but it's worth a shot and I will post his reply (assuming he does reply.)

Thank you! :)
posted by Kassaremidylynn
I wrote this a while atrás for my English class. We had to write about something we felt strongly about, and I feel very strongly about this, so...

Many people think that I would be an avid Twilight lover and a hater of the Harry Potter books after their first impression. What they see may seem to point to that: I’m a fifteen ano old girl who devours books, is a self-proclaimed hopeless romantic, loves all things vampire related, and I wear a ton of black. In reality, this couldn’t be far from the truth. It is actually the complete opposite. I absolutely despise anything Twilight related...
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posted by GemonkDruid
A/N: I just thought it would be an interesting subject, you know? And before you do anything, just to let you know, I FAIL at characterisation. So don't go all batshit on me if I get Hermione or anyone else wrong, 'kay?

Today, on the 17th of October, the court session for the famous "Meyer Case" was initiated. Stephenie Meyer, founder of Twilight, inc., the billion-dollar advertising company, was arrested on several charges, including: allegations of fraud charged por worldwide companies Feminism, inc., 3D pwns 2D, and Literature n Books; the murder of various brain cells; abuse and rape of thesarus,...
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posted by emilykuru
Fanfiction:

edward-bella vs harry-ginny

Edward and bella go to a railway station during one rainy dia in london. They meet harry and ginny there,

( bella is not changed into a vampire yet )

Edward: bella love, close your eyes please!

Bella: why edward?

(thinks to himself)

Edward : just yesterday I had promised her that she was the prettiest one I have ever seen, but here here is ginny who looks so pretty.
And bella should better stay away from harry, or she will ditch me like jake..

( meanwhile harry is using legilimence when edward is busy thinking )

Harry: well, why am I going to eye a crackpot...
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There once was this girl named Bri, who had a best friend (for this article, we'll call her Z). Bri and Z had identical taste in books. So, when Z gave Bri Twilight for natal and told her how “great” it was and kept going on and on. She tried to convince Bri that it was better than Harry Potter (the book Bri had been obsessed with since she was nine) but Bri didn't believe that at all. Still, if Z liked it, then Bri knew she would like it. She had no hesitation when she cracked the binding. She was hooked.

Now, this was before Twilight grew to be psychotically massive, so when Bri came...
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