The portrayal of women in this movie is easily the most dangerous of all the princess films when it comes to teaching children how to behave and what to believe and expect from others.

I love the movie for its beautiful art and music and will let my kids watch it when they're like ten or eleven and already know about the real world.

You have two females. One is vain and obsessed with beauty and hates the only other female in the movie because she's catty and jealous and vindictive. She becomes an ugly old woman who can't be trusted. And then Snow White...offering to cook and clean after seven men in order for them not to throw you out when you're being hunted down by a murderer...it just rubs me the wrong way. How absurd and unplausable would it be if there was a movie where a PRINCE said to seven old ladies "I'll sweep and clean your dishes and do your laundry and cook all your meals if you don't send me away..." it would just never happen. The movie is really outdated and if I have a son I would not want him to expect a woman like Snow White or fear ugly older women or think women are beauty-obsessed jealous bitches.

Because of Naveen. They'll make him look cool and make them think it's okay to act like a completely stupid, annoying, lying, selfish, lazy bastard. It'll basically be Peter Pan all over again. They'll think you can get by with anything as long as your good looking and arrogant about it.

I disagree with you. I think The Princess and the Frog sends a good message to little boys. It teaches them to support a woman's career ambitions. And Naveen only gets Tiana AFTER changing his ways, so I think most kids would see that lazy Naveen was a broke gold-digger and hardworking Naveen was the one who gets to live happily ever after. He even says he will work three jobs to make her dreams a reality and you see him roll up his sleeves and help build Tiana's Palace in the end.

Because Aladdin lies throughout the majority of the film, and no one seems to care and he gets away with it, and he gets his happy ending. What does that teach us?

Wow disneydweeb ! I was just thinking that it sends the message to little boys that all they got to do is kiss a random girl that is passed out and she will run away with you. My girls watch all the Disney Princess movies (I just make sure to tell them that it is only a movie and not take it so seriously)...the only Disney Movie so far I will not let them watch is Hunchback (the whole scene with Frollo and a "naked" Esmerelda in the fire is way to suggestive and messed up and the whole him killing the gypsy mother at the begining and getting away with it is pretty traumatic)

And I agree with disneydweeb about the Princess and the Frog.

That people make mistakes, lying makes a big mess of things, it's never too late to try to fix a mess you made, and anyone can have a happy ending. Oh Dreamygal was that a rhytorical question lol? When was Esmeralda naked in the fire?

Aladdin just bugs me with his constant lying! I really love him BEFORE he finds out the girl he met in the marketplace was the Princess. Everything goes downhill for him after that with me. I have been hurt too many times in my life by men who lie, so I guess that's why he pisses me off so bad, lol.

Well, I have some problems with Aladdin, like DreamyGal. Part of it is the portrayal of Jasmine. I like that little boys fall for a princess like Jasmine who is extremely assertive about her rights to be treated as an equal and not objectified...HOWEVER, her physical portrayal contradicts everything she stands for. Could Jasmine look like more of a sexualized object? She's a walking contradiction in a sense. If you ask most boys who grew up watching Aladdin what they think of Jasmine, the majority will say "She was hot!" and "She had big boobs and dressed skimpy!" not "She had a great, feminist personality!"

during the scene when Frollo is singing about basically wanting Esmeralda and if he did not get her he was going to burn her...The images of her make it look like she is dancing naked in the fire...of course it has been years since I watched it, but I was a little girl and I came away disgusted and thinking that was not right. Maybe my memory is faulty, but that is how i rember that scene and refuse to expose my girls to that.

Well can't argue with you there. I'd be lying if I said I didn't see how Aladdin is a bad influence on little boys but he also is a good role model at the same time. Naveen I just don't see it though, I know a lot of guys like Naveen and they ended up working at Mcdonalds for the rest of their lives, if they were lucky lol. Esmeralda wasn't naked she was in her red dress.

@ disneydweeb... True...that's another point about that movie that sort of bugs me as well.

But Naveen CHANGED. Why are Aladdin's mistakes so forgivable but not Naveen's? Maybe you missed the entire third act of the film where he develops and completely changes his attitude towards life? By the end of the movie, he's a hardworking, supportive husband!

Lol KataraLover. Naveen can be annoying, but I love him. In the beginning he isn't the best role model, I agree...he is pretty much a whore...but he does change, when he realizes he loves Tiana.

Let's not get into this because we both don't want to start some stupid fight, agreed?

I'm not getting into anything! Just making my point and highlighting the flaws in your argument to further prove it.

DreamyGal, yeah I think one day I'm just going to invent a word that means a male slut/whore and it will be "Naveen". Well I can dream can't I?

Unfortunately there is a huge double standard in society when it comes to that. I actually agree that maybe Naveen does send a bad message. Why is a prince allowed to allude to getting laid by several women? God knows we'll never see a princess who's got a promiscuous, sexual history that she can be redeemed of.

my bad...all these years I thought she was naked...the scene still disgusts me and I don't want to have to explain an old man lusting after a girl and basically saying if he can't have her physically he is going to kill her...I will have to explain this one day but they are only 1,4, and 9...so not yet...nasty perv... Thanks for clearing that up KataraLover...her dress was just so skin tight and skimpy that when just outlined in flame I thought she looked naked..

SweetPea2007 yeah as a child I had a hard time understanding it. I recommand waiting until they're older and actually understand what it means. I think that's one of the reasons I prefer the sequel(no I'm not stupid or crazy) because of all that disgusing inappropriate nature.

I didn't understand that Frollo liked Esmeralda until I was older too. I barely got the message when I was 9 when he said "Or else let her be mine and mine alone" but pushed the thought away and kept thinking "He just wants to kill her because she humiliated him in public at the Feast of Fools and because he thinks she's a witch." That was a simple enough explanation for me. I just never understood why the music got loud when he sniffed her hair until I was a teenager. XD

Wow this is interesting. I was just thinking along the lines that he was a thief but also the main character. I found this hard to do though.

no really is a bad influence because they all mature towards the end of the movie, he is the only on that didn't have a clear transformation from start to finish

TigerRanma same here

I just realized I was about 15 when The Hunchback of Notre Dame came out so that would proably explain why I got the sexual content pretty quickly and why I thought she was naked in the flame...I still think I will wait before I show them that movie though...of course it took watching the Last Unicorn as an adult before I realized the tree with big boobs smothering the guy with them was not quite right...(unfortuantly I realized this as my 4 year old was watching it with me and my husband....she was oblivious)...the were a lot of movies from when I was a kid that I only realize now as an adult had some very innapropriate stuff for kids in them...meh...maybe I am being overprotective, they most likely are not even noticing this stuff right now...I hope...

Maybe it's just because I live in the South, but unfortunately I know many many men who expect their wives to do everything and who don't do diddly squat to help with the chores or taking care of the children. For this reason, I think Snow White and it's "outdated" ideal of femalehood is the most dangerous.

I put "outdated" in quotes, because unfortunately it's NOT outdated for far too many men.

In contrast, there are good points to the other films.

For example, Naveen can strike the fear of being skill-less and unemployable in young men. That's a good thing, if nothing else!

Or Aladdin? He shows the value of being compassionate to others, even when you have nothing yourself.

SweetPea2007 that's understandable I mean the most is a bit adult swim for kids, you know what I mean. They probably won't understand it and aren't mature enough for it yet. It's best to wait a while for you, your not really being overprotective it's just keeping them from inappropriate things. I mean with things like The Black Cauldron waiting to watch that isn't because of anything inappropriate, it's just a little too scary for really little kids. I mean for a kid like 9-12 it seems just fine because it's a really great movie. However with The Hunchback of Notre Dame it has sexual messages and things in the movie that waiting until they're 13 is a good idea maybe. I remember seeing it as 6 and than I never saw it again until I was 13. So you're just following your instints and keeping your daughters away from things so sexual and inappropriate, one of my main problems with the movie. Though they might enjoy the sequel and love Madellaine, kids seem to be less picky over sequels than older people are. That's probably why I love sequels so much because I grew up with them. Listen to me babble on and on, I look so stupid lol.

I agree completely with DreamyGal about Aladdin. Aladdin's constant lying sends a bad message to young boys.

Lol I don't even know any boys who'd watch Sleeping Beauty.

Aladdin lies to and deceives Jasmine to gain her love instead of being himself. It also makes it look like if you aren't tough and wealthy, you're not going to attract women.

A lot of boys (teenage ones anyway) seem to think Aladdin is awesome because of Jasmine, and I agree with disneydweeb, they usually like her because of how she looks and because she's hard to get. She says she's not a prize to be won, but somehow I get the impression that that is exactly how a lot of boys view her.
And then there's Aladdin himself, who has a good heart but unfortunately lies, so I have mixed feelings about his influence.

I agree with KataraLover about what he said about Naveen (without the Peter Pan bit). Naveen is self-centered, egoistic and rude. He is a playboy and just wants to enjoy life, without giving any thought for anybody else. I think this is the message the little boys will get out of him. In the end he becomes boring and dull, almost unmemorable. So I think the boys will remember his behavior from the beginning of the movie.

I agree with BelleAnastasia

I agree with those who said that Naveen and Patf send a bad massege to young boys. Honestly, Naveen/Tiana is one of the wrost relationships Disney ever came up with and I think this romantic story sends a bad massege to both boys and girls, but mainly boys. First of all, we see a self centered guy who humiliates his less privileged companion because of his appearence and weight and all he cares about is being a womanizer. Naveen flirts and plays and when at some point he gets cursed (not because of his behaviour - like Beast for example - but because some randon dude with the lamest evil motivations in Disney wanted to have power over the town) he is willing to kiss the first girl he meets because he believes she is princess and wealthy. Did I mention that SHE, who is supposed to represent a strong ambitious female, is willing to kiss him too so he would give her money for her resturant business. Kissing a guy for money - yeah, that is a great massege right here. Then they run away together as they both are turned into frogs, Naveen keeps talking about how he wants to marry Charlotte because of her wealth (another great massege), then at some point Tiana tells him to help her cook, he cooks something and after that they are supposedly in love. What? Where is the development? We didn't even get to SEE Naveen developing as a person, all we saw was a rapid change of his mentality that came out of nowhere. This is NOT a good massege for young boys.

And now lets take Aladdin, a guy who lived on a street and had nothing since birth, he had to steal food to survive and even his last bread he was willing to give to two starving kids. He wasn't thinking about marring a rich woman without love like Naveen, when he fell for Jasmine he did not even know she was a princess. Once he did know that, he realized he had no chance with her and partly he was right because while she was ready to explore their relationship, the law was not on her side - she was forced to marry someone she didn't want to. And she wasn't ready to, because like she said she wasn't a prize to be won. Jasmine was rebelling against the law that humiliated her as a woman taking away her right to decide who she wants to be with and after what she shared with Aladdin he decided to use his one and only chance to get closer to her and yes, maybe he did a bit of lying, but his intentions were clear - he didn't do it for money or for wealth, he did it because him and Jasmine liked each other MUTUALLY and he wanted them to have a chance. Aladdin was a good person and what he got in the end he got because of his brave, kind and compassion heart.

I really do not think any of them will...