omg twilight rocks

Haha, don't worry! Despite the Twilight hate going on most of the time, everyone's really quite friendly here. We won't bite...unless you bite us first. Which you haven't, so you're cool. ;-)

First of all, lemme say that it's awesome to meet another sane Twilighter, and I'm glad you're liking the CAT. ^__^

segundo of all, in answer to your question...there are several reasons.

1) Many of us have had very bad experiences with Twilight and the Twihards. It's bad enough seeing something you don't like invade EVERY shopping mall and bookstore and t-shirt comprar (not to mention some of your favorito fanpop spots). It's even worse when some of the crazy fãs try to ram it down your throat or scream mindless, nasty insults at you if you dare to criticize it in any way. Sometimes, when it all becomes too much, you just need to vent about it.

2) One of the reasons why I made this spot is because a lot of people - both pros and antis - simply want to get away from the hype and have a real, intelligent discussion about Twilight. When I read Twilight, and when I did research on the other books, I noticed many themes in it that I believe are bad - such as Bella being a weak, negative role model for girls, Edward's controlling, stalkerish behavior towards her, the way their unhealthy relationship was being portrayed as "true love", etc. You may not see it like that, and that's fine...but I feel these are interesting and serious issues that should be brought to light, and so do others. Talking about them not only helps us form opinions, but also helps us understand exactly why we don't like the series. It's always good to know what you believe, and why you believe it.

3) To be honest...hating on Twilight is kinda...fun. It gets addicting. xD Even the Twilight fãs here get a kick out of it. In fact, often it's not about hating Twilight - we just amor humor and we like to poke fun at it. It's so ridiculously easy to laugh at and so fun...it's become our own personal brand of heroine...or catnip. Whichever drug you prefer. =P

Anyway, hope that respostas your question. And BTW, it's awesome that you amor Twilight, and we respect that. Take a look at the banner! Doesn't matter if you're a pro or an anti - EVERYONE'S welcome here, and every kitten is a potential buddy. So if you amor Twilight, don't be afraid to speak up about it! Support your side; add vídeos or images, write a soapbox about it, whatever. We won't attack you or mock you if you do that. Heck, we ENCOURAGE it! If there's one thing CAT probably needs right now, it's balance. I think it would be refreshing to see a bit of Twilight amor here. :-)

We talk about it all the time because TWILIGHT fãs talk about it all of the time. And it's everywhere, and we're very irritated with it, especially when we can see all of the flaws with it, which, in my opinion, are a lot and very big, gaping ones. The biggest reason why though is because we feel like people are trying to force it down our throats, and the obnoxious insane fans, and that kind of ticks us off. I am one of those people. It's annoying to have people flipping out over it everywhere I look, but I could handle that okay I believe. It's the Twihards that really get me, atuação completely retarded and brainwashed, and saying all kinds of nasty things about us just because we dislike what they like. So what? Everyone has different opinions, let us have them. You ignore us we ignore you. But they say stuff like we're losers or something or crazy simply because we don't care for it. And we can't say anything other than we amor it or else the fãs will FREAK OUT on us...THAT'S why we're always talking about it. Because the Twihards continuously piss us off, and we just feel like we have to blow off steam. And I think it's good to dissect books and discuss things about them. But yeah. A lot of people on the C.A.T. spot may hate Twilight, but a lot of people on here like it too. So long as no one fights, the world goes round here. And you won't get shouted at for pondering something out loud! Isn't it wonderful? :)

I mean absolutely no offense whatsoever to anyone, I was just anwering the question. Thank you for getting up the courage to ask, topazEYEs91. Because of all the anti's on here, the Twilight fãs are intimidated to say anything. You shouldn't be! We don't bite. It's only the retarded crazy fãs we hate; if you like Twilight, we don't care. We amor your opinions too.

Glad to see you joined us, topazEYEs91. Us gatinhos enjoy some civilized discussion about the Twilight books and movies.

I agree with everything LadyLilith has said, most of the time it's not the books or movies, but the rabid fans. They can go medieval whenever someone doesn't bow at Stephenie's feet while the rest of the world needs to shut up because they take everything personal.

I don't consider myself a hater. "Twilight" was my guilty pleasure and I can still see some good parts in it. As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for the fans, I think I'd still enjoy the three first books (I'm one of those "Breaking Dawn" haters). However, seeing the series get so big got me thinking. The mais I think, the bigger flaws I discover. And I'm not the only one. People here have thought about Twilight too and they all have very interesting ideas to share. Not all of them are haters, there are some fãs around who are happy to be here and make their points without being bashed. We may not agree with them, but it's great to read their arguments and see there is no right or wrong, just different opinions.

Another reason, at least in my case, is that the fact of not liking something doesn't mean I don't like discussing about that something.

Another reason, on topo, início of what LadyLilith said, is simply that debate is interesting. You don't have to like something to find debating about it interesting. Especially something like Twilight, which at this point is mais than a book, it's a public phenomenon.
The same way it's interesting to debate about abortion or racism, you don't have to like those things, the discussion is still fascinating (I'm not saying Twilight is anything like racism, for the record, that's just an example of something people debate about without liking). Twilight is reaching many mebers of the public, and it contains themes some people are not ok with, so dicussing those things and hearing the points of veiw of people who completely disagree is interesting.

There's also the fact that some people are simply annoyed por it, and expressng their annoyance is a way to vent. Like personally I'd probably never mention it if it wasn't so popular, because I don't think the messages it sends are ok for the age it's aimed at (not having a go at people who think it is ok, just explaining my point of view) and I like to talk about that concern with others on both sides of the debate. All that as well as what Lady Lilith put. Sometimes it's so shoved in peoples face they need a place to get it off their chest too.

Hope that clears up why some people may want to talk about it even when they dislike it :)

I dont like Twilight never have, never will. If you like it thats fine. As long as there is some sanity in you. Alot of the girls I find who read it or talk to the media about it make us other girls look like a needy species. Im not a feminist, I watch princess movies, but to be that upset over a fricken sparkly vampire who is personally not that hot is rediculous and for the media to feed them mais and mais crap everywhere they turn is sad. " People magazine" now has Twilight central. Sick, I cant go anywhere without it showing up. Just sick.

I've never like Twilight in fact I'm a hater but if you like it that's fine with me. I don't hate the people that like it(with the exception of the crazy fangirls)
We talk about Twilight all the time because sometimes when something really bothers you you want to talk about it with someone else. Sometimes you want to let the rest of the people know that you hate something just because it bothers you and you can't keep it to yourself. This spot is for intelligent discussion about Twilight. You view Twilight in your own way and we view it in our own way. We won't kill you about that. In fact we like you for that. It gives us a chance to know each other better and discuss our views on the subject. This is not a hater spot so don't be afraid... we don't bite :D:D:D:D

I said this somewhere else on here already, but it's worth repeating. I think any time there's something so insanely popular and pervasive in today's culture, and especially among such a vulnerable population, it's the responsible and appropriately self-reflective thing to do to think critically about it and try to understand it's appeal rather than accept it blindly or even dismiss it outright. Twilight is an escapist vice for me as was Roswell back in the early 2000s or the odd Gossip Girl episode. I know these things are not exactly mind-blowingly intelligent - the writing's poor, the plot holes are vast and the realism is nil - but, sometimes it's fun to just let go of it all for a while and enjoy the silliness. The problem is, and the thing we have to be most cautious about, is that 13 ano old girls can't always tell the difference between escapist and realistic expectations and the degree to which their obsessions are extending is disturbing. And yet the marketing continues to target younger and younger girls without regard for the implications. It's irresponsible for us as a society to make that okay.

Well, I think the main reason why we hate twilight and attack it is mostly because we have had a super bad experience with the book or the Twi-hards. This often makes, you feel like you can not find a way to feel sympathetic. Like when I was one dia there were these eighteen ano old girls all decked in everything Team Edward and walked up to me. They were like do you like Twilight? I politely said no and explained why. I also said I loved Harry potter. For a few segundos they didn't say anything, but then started taunting me, saying Harry Potter is for "bitches who will burn in hell,"- quoted from them. As much as I make fun of Twi-hards on this spot, I would never say what they said. I was like twelve, almost thirteen. It really didn't hurt me, in just made me upset that people would have the nerve to say what they did. Personally, that was the point when i felt it important that you can be rude to Twilight- and CAT obviously added to the hatred. But, I think it was good of you to ask why we say what we say. It was really good of you- you wanted a good explanation as to why this is... I hope you understand where I'm coming from. It is understandable for people to get upset, not that you did, but saying that anyone who is- we do critisize Twilight harshly... but oi everything's got a reason!
I hope this answer helps you to understand. Also one of my best friend is a twi-hard... and my 1st cousin is a Twi-hard*10 and is obsessed with Robert Pattinson, so all that adds to why I think Twilight is annoying, dumb, and pathetic... but that's my opinion! Hope I helped you out!!!:)

You know, I was just asked this pergunta por my mom today. I'm actually a neutral when it comes to the books. I amor THE VOLTURI!!!!! They pretty much stick to the tradtional vampire roll. Being scary and aggrasive. Those are the kind of vampiros I enjoy leitura about. But when it comes to the unhealthy relationship I see between Edward and Bella, it really makes me upset. I used to be just like Bella, the damsel who couldn't see anything outside of her boyfriend and I let a guy control me the same way Bella pretty much does. I was left and I went into a deep depression because of it. Now that I've moved on, I know better now and to see something so familiar to me played out in a popular novel like this really upsets me. How many other girls are going to go through the same Hell I went through becuase a book told them that being a weak little girl and having a controling boyfriend who does everything for you is okay. That's what has always upset me about the books. I know you probably don't see any of that when you read the book and I know a lot of Twilight fãs don't, but it's a different point of view. Here at C.A.T. That's okay. I had to explain this to my mom the same way. She remembered all too well having to take me to the hospital after my break up. (Yeah, it was that bad) But, I didn't jump off any cliffs, so I guess I'm good there. I like being able to talk about my likes and dislikes here because I know I won't get attacked for my opnion and this seems to be the only spot I can do that on. Okay, enough of my rambling. Just so you know though, I'm not a complete hater. I just can't stand the two main characters, but I really do adore the rest of them, I just believe they should get mais attention then they do. That's just another issue of mine...lol. Wow! listen to me, I'm issue girl. I'll just show off my reason for loving the books below and stop ranting now. *Awkward silence*

BECAUSE IT'S THE FUCKING INTERNET. GTFO.

Well, I can't speak for everyone (but it looks like no one else was offended) but I found no offense in your pergunta :)
To be honest, I sometimes think the same thing. Sometimes I wonder if obsessive Twilight haters know that they are just as bad as the obsessive Twilight fãs when it comes to realizing that Twilight is...well, just a book and truly not worth that much attention. Not to offend anyone on this club (and I don't think that about anyone here)...

But my best guess as to why people express great dislike for Twilight on this club is because this club is the only place they can express their opinions. I mean, think about it. The Twilight series fanclub has over 42,000 fãs por now, meaning Twilight fãs are almost everywhere on Fanpop. If they expressed how much they didn't like the series in another club such as the aleatório fanclub, what are the odds of an immature, obsessive Twilight fã bashing them for it? Here, no one can bash anyone, it's like the lema and the banner says.

People here can have whatever opinion they wish, and that's why I think a lot of Twilight haters express their feelings here most often. :)

Personally, I'm here because I can't stand Twilight. There are so many fangirls who go over the topo, início (notice that I'm not saying all the fangirls) with this and assume that everyone loves Twilight. I like to be with others who disagree, and to discuss exactly what I don't like about it. I don't like bashing or anything, but I do like to get away from the hype.