Till I don't see the movie(M2) i can't say about Gwylion, but Laverna looks really evil. On the other hand Henna looks cute. She is too cute to be an evil LOL

Old bitch! Isn't it?

LOL you are right Lena.

I'm between Laverna and Gwylion. But I choose Laverna because I don't want to offend anyone saying "old is evil".

"Old bitch"? Really?

Anyway, I went with Laverna. Gwylion just looks like an old woman in dark clothes; which, while that may be Mattel's definition of evil, it certainly isn't mine. And Henna doesn't look evil at all, which is actually one of the great things about her.

(And Vi, honestly, compared to the comments above you, nothing you say could be that bad.)

What do you mean Abbey? Don't we have right to express our own view?

Of course you do, but I don't have to agree. And I really wish you'd found a better way of saying it than bringing up her age. If being old automatically makes you look evil... well, then Mattel taught you well, I suppose.

Why is everybody blaming Mattel? Mattel isn't the one responsible for everything someone knows. If she thinks "old is evil" that doesn't mean Mattel taught that to her.
But I have to agree that what Lena said might be offensive to some people. But calm down. I guess she didn't mean it that way. She maybe meant that she was old and evil so that makes her an "old bitch" doesn't it. She didn't say all old people are bitches and evil.

Laverna because she is down right evil in all of the movies she appears in, but I have to say I Henna the most out of the three because I love the fact that she was not a noticable villian like the other two seem to be.

Well, given how they treat older characters in these new movies, you could've fooled me.

I brought up the "old bitch" line because it proves my point. Look at the other characters. She's the only one who's technically old (although Laverna could qualify, I suppose), and she's singled out and insulted for it. Meanwhile, other characters are praised on here for being "pretty". If her age doesn't have anything to do with it, why point it out at all? Why not just call her a bitch?

Well, the only one pretty here is Henna. But Laverna isn't bad either. as about Gwylon I haven't seen her face yet so I can't judge. Maybe she was beautiful when she was young. But everybody knows that wrinkles don't make someone look beautiful. As about the "old bitch" I don't think it's a big deal. I could call Henna "Teenager Bitch" or Laverna"Adult Bitch".
And if Keira the protagonist deserves to be called a "bitch" then why doesn't the main antagonist deserve that? I hate when people called Keira a bitch and I always thought it was unfair because Tori was as bitchy as she and nobody said anything about her, but it was their own opinion. I learned to face the truth that Keira will always be a bit in your eyes.

Well, once again, I've put my foot in my mouth. I'm not saying ANYONE deserves to be called a bitch. What I'm saying is that it's not okay to drag age into it. (And, seriously, who was calling Keira a bitch? Tori was far worse than she was. But, as you said, no one seems to say a bad word against her. Strange, considering I felt that Keira was a far better character. But that's my opinion, too, isn't it?)

You're right too. I think we went very far with this discussion. We can end it peacefully, right? BTW I understand you. (As about Keira, everyone used to call her a bitch after PaP came out. Don't you remember? And yes, I agree Tori was worse. At least Keira didn't do anything bad to anyone while Tori shamed her aunt just because she wanted to laugh and have fun. I like Tori like very one Barbie character but I think she has the worst personality and is the only character that is a bad role model. Still Keira made her mistakes too.)

Yeah, I think we ought to. I went a bit too far with this whole thing. I mean, it's a subject that I consider important, but clearly the rest of the spot disagrees. Glad you understand, because I was starting to feel like no one else did.

(Oh, I think I remember now. I never understood it, though. I always preferred Keira to Tori because she seemed like a better person. There's nothing "bitchy" about wanting a day off from a demanding job.)

Laverna!!